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khmerhit
Joined: 31 May 2003 Posts: 1874 Location: Reverse Culture Shock Unit
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 5:45 am Post subject: me mysel f i |
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"I had given a lot of ME to make the company successful..."
The above is an example of North American Englsih that I heard on CNN tonite. The speaker would not have needed to italicize the word ' me', as he did, if he had chosen the correct prononun. Is it just me, or do I hear the reflexive pronouns used less than they should be heard on this continent, where the common language is supposed to be freakin English?
Call me a pedant or a curmudgeon, but it seems to me that many North Americans are reluctant to speak the language as she is meant to be spoken, and to flex their linguistic muscles! |
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dduck

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 422 Location: In the middle
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What I've noticed as I've travelled around is that people are, generally, stupid. I have a great time recounting the Jay Leno street interviews, where average "Joe"s were asked intelligent questions. It never fails to amaze foreigners that an American can think the Austriala borders the US. Or that Americans know more about Star Trek than NASA and the real space program. I use Americans as an example, but I also had a lot of trouble eliciting from my Mexican students that Christopher Columbus discovered the Americas. One student thought he can from Portugal.
I believe it comes down to a failure of education: it's not interesting enough, relevant enough and just can't compete with junk TV. Basically, we're a bunch of morons.
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lagerlout2006

Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Posts: 985
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| dduck---Yes Jaywalking is alarming....I can top it. I am reading the "Murder of Bob Crane "now. He was Hogan on Hogans Heroes but you probably know that. When he was killed many thought the Nazis did it. They had no idea that this was fantsay. There are millions of examples of this. When a character on a soap opera dies people are in tears. They are nuts no other way to put it. Maybe people think Star Trek is reality TV. |
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Shonai Ben
Joined: 15 Feb 2003 Posts: 617
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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Back to Jay Leno.On one Jay walking episode he asked the question;On what year was the war of 1812?
No one got the answer right. |
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Steiner

Joined: 21 Apr 2003 Posts: 573 Location: Hunan China
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 4:36 am Post subject: |
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| They just didn't show the people who got the answers right. Those people aren't fun to laugh at. |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 4:51 pm Post subject: My stars |
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Dear lagerlout2006'
" Maybe people think Star Trek is reality TV. "
Hold it - you mean you think Star Trek ISN'T real? OK, that does it. Beam me up, Scotty. There clearly NO intelligent life down here.
Regards,
Captain Kirk |
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Will.
Joined: 02 May 2003 Posts: 783 Location: London Uk
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Ok you're a pedant, but look on the bright side, you are in extemely good company.
it is not only where you are that people are reluctant to make an effort to speak English as well as possible there is a little word doing the rounds over here.
'Innit': Used as a catch all question tag. Once a slang form of isn't it now appropriated into immigrant misuse and now back into general use. |
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Corey

Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 112 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Steiner wrote: |
| They just didn't show the people who got the answers right. Those people aren't fun to laugh at. |
....interesting theory. |
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Corey

Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 112 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 11:21 pm Post subject: Re: me mysel f i |
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| khmerhit wrote: |
| but it seems to me that many North Americans are reluctant to speak the language as she is meant to be spoken, and to flex their linguistic muscles! |
Speaking of.....I had no idea we still had m/f gender in English. |
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