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luckyloser700
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
Posts: 308
Location: Japan
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 Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:23 am Post subject: Re: A beginners' guide to logical fallacies |
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| shikushiku-boy wrote: |
'ARGUMENTUM AD HOMINEM' (attack the person), sometimes called the 'Poising the
well' trick: Unfavourable information about person A (true or false) is presented, therefore,
anything person A says must be wrong. "The OP is a lazy, pampered, mummy's-boy, who
has come to Japan just to get drunk and get laid, and therefore, his opinion about un-paid
overtime is rubbish. "
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My personal favorite |
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shikushiku-boy
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
Posts: 49
Location: Melbourne
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:27 am Post subject: |
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Red dog, I know what you mean.
The 'take my advice or bad stuff will happen' argument does make people sit up and listen
...it's hard to ignore.
But, if the person using this argument doesn't know you or your boss, and has little, or no,
first-hand knowledge about the particular situation you're going into, then how can they be sure your boss
will fire your butt in 5 minutes flat if you don't take their advice? More often than not, they're just
guessing, or trying to impose their own beliefs on your situation. |
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red dog
Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Posts: 41
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:38 am Post subject: |
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| shikushiku-boy wrote: |
Red dog, I know what you mean.
The 'take my advice or bad stuff will happen' argument does make people sit up and listen
...it's hard to ignore.
But, if the person using this argument doesn't know you or your boss, and has little, or no,
first-hand knowledge about the particular situation you're going into, then how can they be sure your boss
will fire your butt in 5 minutes flat if you don't take their advice? More often than not, they're just
guessing, or trying to impose their own beliefs on your situation. |
Oh, I see. I guess I misunderstood the context, then. |
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myesl
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
Posts: 307
Location: Luckily not in China.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| The OP should post on China -- off-topic as well. It's much needed there. |
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Mark
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Posts: 500
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:55 am Post subject: |
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Good post, OP, but the things you point out are hardly limited to this forum. Perhaps we should expect better of the forum as presumably everyone has a university degree, but....
To be honest, though, I haven't noticed a huge problem. |
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