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Aristotle · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1388 Location: Taiwan

Coined a new acronym?
Apparently someone agrees with that assertion.

7969 · Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 5782 Location: Coastal Guangdong

looks like u ought to get out of the ROC. you clearly dont enjoy it there.

SanChong · Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 335

More of the same. Pause. Play. Pause. Play. Stop the record. Start again.

Yes, there are problems in Taiwan. How are they different from problems in other countries? Please tell us one way.

Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot that you don't consider this a DISCUSSION forum. You don't respond to other peoples comments.

Zen-Poet · Joined: 08 Sep 2005 Posts: 16

Using my patented �Aristotle Formula�, I present an analysis of Aristotle�s latest post:

Sweeping Generalization(s):
This time while the words are not his, he once again doesn�t present the whole article, only the parts that support his racist and bigoted view towards Taiwan. A pr�cis of this �Letter to the Editor� would look like this: There were some rumours of corruption; ergo the entire Taiwanese government and culture is corrupt.

I especially like the part where the author doesn�t provide his full name�

Lay Blame with the Government
See above pr�cis.

Poor Grammar
N/A (someone else wrote this and not Aristotle himself)

Failure to Provide Evidence
Anyone with the analytical skills of the average third-grade student would quickly realise two (2) things about the letter:
1) There is absolutely no proof provided to substantiate the rumours asserted in the letter.
2) As there is no substantiation, it is an opinion only.

Opinion is not fact; please stop trying to pass it off as such.

sbettinson · Joined: 22 Jul 2004 Posts: 81 Location: Taichung

If the second sentence in the article is true - that you can judge a leader by his subordinates - then surely you must be able to judge a forum by it's posters! Laughing

Aristotle, your posts are a step in a direction which many of us may quite honestly not wish to tread for fear of stepping on certain individual's toes. So, hat off to you in that respect. I don't know you or know of what you are doing in regards to getting your voice heard in Taiwan beyond this forum, so can't comment on that but looking at your activity on this forum I wish to say this.

The topics on which you base your posts on this forum - that of corruption, foreigner's rights, racism, all smack of the problems within third world, developing and developed nations. One only has to read a newspaper to realise this.

However, like many other posters state, your failure to provide any substantiating evidence beyond wild accusatory statements does little for your credibility and new people coming to this board looking for information about Taiwan.

I have no idea what pickled your experience here but I can honestly say to any new posters reading this that you shouldn't take what Aristotle writes about these inflammatory statements as hard evidence of what goes on in Taiwan at the street level. Use your common sense to realise that corruption etc does happen and so does racism and all the other topics mentioned. It's an unfortunate fact of life.

I personally feel happy with living in Taiwan and it is a damn sight safer and more interesting than where I am from in the UK. You should hear some of the racism brewing in the UK towards foreigners and immigrants there and of the backhanders that government ministers have received over the years. Not to mention the behaviour and attitudes of the nation's youth. I fear walking the streets at night at home, whereas here I don't.

If you enjoy fear and dissillusionment then please continue believing what Aristotle makes us put up with, or you can take the righteous path and come to Taiwan, see what you will and make your own experience.

Shaun

clark.w.griswald · Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 2056

Well said Shaun.

I think that it would be great if someone would deligently and wholeheartedly take on the establishment in regards to certain issues that do impact upon foreigners living in Taiwan. Unfortunately the people who tend to 'champion these causes' on public forums such as this one really have no interest in seeing change, and are more interested in furthering their own agenda.

Aristotle on this forum, and Mod edit on another forum, are two that come to mind.

How can we spot them? Easy. They are all talk with no substance and never take the next step to actually solving the problem. In reality I don't think that they want to solve the problem as then they would have nothing to complain about. Quite simply they are the pessimists of this world and they would no doubt be equally unhappy back home as they are here. Life is all about identifying the negatives and concentrating on the positives and as Shaun says it is this simple fact that makes Aristotles posts totally irrelevant to the real situation on the ground here in Taiwan.

Forumosa Maoman · Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 22 Location: Lotus Hill

Miyazaki · Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 635 Location: My Father's Yacht

I like Aristotle's posts.

It's funny seeing all the internet bullies on the Taiwan forum get their panties in a wad everytime artistotle posts something.

And he didn't even write the article - someone else who also thinks that corruption in Taiwan is a major problem did.

Northwood · Joined: 08 Nov 2005 Posts: 66

SanChong · Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 335

Has anyone ever met Aristotle? I'd be fascinated by any information along those lines. He's truly an intriguing character, like a strange phenomena you see at the circus.

I feel a certain sense of embarrassment everytime I respond to one of his posts. It's kind of like when you get frustrated with one of your kindergarten students and stoop to their level, for just one moment. It's a humiliating experience when you realize you are being as immature as your students. Still, sometimes you can't help it!

In fact, each time I respond to one of Aristotle's fantastical posts of other-worldly psychosis, I always think of rubber necking on a highway. You KNOW you shouldn't look at the crash, but somehow you can't stop yourself. You don't care about the little rear-enders, but you can NEVER stop yourself from looking at the big pile ups.

That's what happens with Aristotle. We have plenty of other loony, part time visitors which we ignore, but Aristotle is the big, crazy pile up. He's so off base and offensive in his statements that we just can't resist replying.

Miyazaki · Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 635 Location: My Father's Yacht

You're all being ridiculous.

Henry_Cowell · Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 3352 Location: Berkeley

After about six weeks of not posting anything on Dave's, "Miyazaki" comes out of the woodwork -- just to defend "Aristotle" once again.

Can somebody spell s-t-o-o-g-e?