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jackmack



Joined: 19 Jul 2006
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Location: Brunei

PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:58 am    Post subject: school locations and classifications Reply with quote

Hello,

My husband and I are about to apply for a NET job. We have been teaching in rural and remote regions for the past 15 years, so, HK will be a change. Nonetheless, I have heard that there are schools which are not part of the city - obviously not remote, but more rural in orientation. Is this true?

And, using this as a premise, is it possible to nominate locations or express preference?

One more thing - what is the deal with the classification of schools, and are the lower classified schools really as bad as they say?

Thanks

J
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Horizontal Hero



Joined: 26 Mar 2004
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Location: The civilised little bit of China.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:15 pm    Post subject: Re: school locations and classifications Reply with quote

My 5 cents worth.

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My husband and I are about to apply for a NET job. We have been teaching in rural and remote regions for the past 15 years, so, HK will be a change. Nonetheless, I have heard that there are schools which are not part of the city - obviously not remote, but more rural in orientation. Is this true?


Not really rural, but there are schools in areas that are less urbanised - e.g. some of the islands (I think mainly primary schools), and new territories. Still, it would rarely take you more than an hour to get to central from anywhere. You can live in villages if you want (even if you work in the city - just takes time to travel), which can have quite a rural feel. I live in a village in the hills of tai po. Very quiet, except for the damn dogs.

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And, using this as a premise, is it possible to nominate locations or express preference?


The EMB will nominate schools for you. But try www.scmp.com classifieds. Plenty of schools put ads there. But peak season was about a month or two ago, as it's end of term. Still, some positions will come up. If you have passed the emb interview, you can send them your CV (as far as I know).


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One more thing - what is the deal with the classification of schools, and are the lower classified schools really as bad as they say?


There are band 1,2 & 3 schools. Band one has the most academically inclined students. However they can also have a, lot of work and pressure - sometimes. I think management and staff attitudes are just as important as the students. A band three school may be great if you get supportive staff and managment.

Hope that helps.

HH
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poof



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it really matters where you are based in HK because it's usually fairly easy to get to any of the more 'remote' areas in a short journey. Also, most schools are in the more densely populated areas, and I would always recommend a good school over living in a good area.
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jackmack



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:40 pm    Post subject: thanks Reply with quote

Thanks guys, just one point I need clarification on...

To the baby dancer:

You say I recommend a good school over living in a good area...

What consitutes a good area to live in? My husband and I want to live, if at all possible, somewhere that isn't too congested, but do not need to live in whiz bang mega luxury accommodation ( we lived in very small places in remote aboriginal communities in Australia). I guess I am curious... are you saying that a "good area" is one that is further from the central part of the city? And, are the schools in these areas less attractive?

To be quite honest, I too, would rather a good school over a good area to live. I don't mean to ask what may seem to be obvious questions, but we are looking at moving to Hong Kong for at least three to five years. so I want to be able to make an informed decision.

Thanks again
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poof



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By 'good', I meant one that was 'good' for your tastes.

You won't exactly find the Outback, but there are plenty of mangy looking wild dogs a la dingoes here! There are lots of little villages off the beaten track which are pleasant to look at and are devoid of other foreigners, but I'd still rather live within a close commute to work, though, especially as most government schools require you to start at the crack of dawn. (I'm not a morning person.)

Your call.
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jackmack



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:11 am    Post subject: two more questions Reply with quote

Sorry I this is a little late to be getting back to you... hope you read this...

Q.1. What would be the most one could expect to commute?

Q.2. What does the "crack of dawn" constitute - we start school here at 7.30 and finishe at 12.30 (the actual teaching day - we are often here til 2.00)

Sorry to be a pest!
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poof



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Commute time? It's hard to answer, as there are infinite commuting combinations depending on where you live and work. In addition, the transport network here is forever growing. Next, I'm expecting door to door monorail link - wouldn't that be great?
Before the KCR West link rail line was completed, it could take one and a half hours to go by bus from Hung Hom to Tin Shui Wai. Many HK locals are happy commuting like this, with many school teachers getting up at 5am, but they are superhuman beings conditioned by years in their industrious educational systems. I am on the contrary, a pampered white man!
If you live on the outlying islands, you'll need to commute by ferry. Allow at least one hour if you include ferry travel. Some people use the ferry commute as an opportunity to get some breakfast and lesson prep done.

One of the things I found convenient about living close to a school is that whenever lessons were suddenly cancelled for some reason - rain storm warning, special event... and the school 'forgot' to tell me in advance there were no classes (something very common here) - I had only lost a few minutes commute time. I would have been really peeved off had I had just travelled for 1 hour or more as had some of my co-workers.
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