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closest dialect to that of Taiwan?

 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:33 am    Post subject: closest dialect to that of Taiwan? Reply with quote

What city in the mainland has the closest dialect to that of Taiwan?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Within the wider Min-nan (Hō-l�-oē) speaking community in Southeast Asia, Amoy (Xiamen) is historically the variant of prestige (close to a 'standard language'), with other major variants from Cho�ⁿ-chiu (Chinchew or Quanzhou in Fujian), Chiang-chiu (Changchew or Zhangzhou in Fujian), and Ti�-chiu (Teochew or Chaozhou in Guangdong).

In Taiwan, however, the T�i-l�m (Tainan, southern Taiwan) speech is the variant of prestige, and the other major variants are the northern speech, the central speech (near Taichung and the port town of Lo̍k-k�ng in Changhua County), and the northern (northeastern) coastal speech (dominant in G�-l�n). The distinguishing feature of the coastal speech is the use of the vowel 'uiⁿ' in place of 'ng'. The northern speech is distinguished by the absence of the 8th tone, and some vowel exchanges (for example, 'i' and 'u', 'e' and 'oe'). The central speech has an additional vowel between 'i' and 'u', which may be represented as '�'.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwanese_(linguistics)#Regional_variations
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dong Tou, off the coast of Wenzhou, Zhejaing. An unheard of island county. The last stand of the KMT (the final battle held 3 years after the PRC was founded).
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Min dialects spoken in Fujian Province and the Chaoshan District of Guangdong are supposed to be the closest.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwanese_language
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a look at http://www.biologydaily.com/biology/Teochew_dialect

I think the simple answer to your question is Chaozhou. The other parts of Chaoshan District also speak Southern Min Dialect but with a stronger accent.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also have a look at http://www.glossika.com/en/dict/classification/min/minnan/index.php

for a graphic representation.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Fujian they speak the same dialect - Minonwah as Taiwan.

Yjey are close relatives of Tiwan in Fujian and recently opened a museum in Quanzhou - the Fujian Taiwan museum or something like that...
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