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TheLongWayHome
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 Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:48 pm Post subject: FM2/FM3 |
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What are the benefits of having an FM2 instead of an FM3? What can I do on an FM2 that I couldn't do on an FM3?
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PlayadelSoul
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Location: Playa del Carmen
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| An FM3 is better than an FM2, for some reason. An FM2 actually takes away some of your rights. For example, you can't drive a US registered car. |
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grahamcito
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:13 am Post subject: |
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An FM2 is good for five years before it needs to be renewed (vs. one for an FM3).
And an old DOS once told me an FM2 only needs to be renewed once - at the end of the renewed FM2's validity, you're entitled to permanent residency.
But he was a pathological liar who got the sack when he was caught with his hand in the till, so it's not exactly holy writ... |
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PlayadelSoul
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:19 am Post subject: |
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| An FM2 has to be renewed, yearly, for the first five years. After that, you don't have to get it renewed. |
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TheLongWayHome
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:24 am Post subject: |
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| PlayadelSoul wrote: |
| An FM2 has to be renewed, yearly, for the first five years. After that, you don't have to get it renewed. |
And do I still have to fork over nigh on $2500 pesos for every renewal? |
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grahamcito
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:46 am Post subject: |
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| TheLongWayHome wrote: |
| $2500 pesos for every renewal? |
Yikes! Is this regional? In GDL, FM3 renewal is approx $1,750. |
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TheLongWayHome
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:55 am Post subject: |
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| grahamcito wrote: |
| Yikes! Is this regional? In GDL, FM3 renewal is approx $1,750. |
Must be, in SLP the FM3 is $1,664. |
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PlayadelSoul
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| An FM2 costs a little more than an FM3, and yes, you have to pay it every year. After 5 years, you become immigrado (I think that is what its called), and don't have to make any more trips to Immigration unless you change address or employer. |
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Ben Round de Bloc
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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| PlayadelSoul wrote: |
| An FM2 costs a little more than an FM3, and yes, you have to pay it every year. After 5 years, you become immigrado (I think that is what its called), and don't have to make any more trips to Immigration unless you change address or employer. |
Also, when a person reaches inmigrado status, he is eligible to apply for citizenship if he so desires. |
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TheLongWayHome
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| Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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| bajabum on another forum wrote: |
FM-2
What is it?
An FM-2 is a one year permit to reside in Mexico. Unlike the FM-3, however, this document makes the holder an Imigrante (Immigrant). The document must be renewed each year as long as you continue to reside in Mexico. After your fifth year you can apply to become an imigrado - immigrate into the country.
Where do I get one?
You may apply for an FM-2 at any Mexican Immigration office within Mexico.
What do I need to get one?
For the moment, it is recommended that you find a good Mexican attorney to help you through the process. An FM-2 is harder to obtain than an FM-3 because it is meant for people who desire to make Mexico their permanent residence.
Proof of income. This figure changes constantly. It is based on minimum wage (400 times the minimum wage in Mexico City) and fluctuates with the exchange rate. The current amount is $13,780.00 pesos per month for the applicant and $20,760 for a married couple. This proof could be in the form of a bank statement showing your investments generate that amount or more, it could also be a letter from your consulate stating you receive social security, a pension, etc.
The administrative "Fee" is $1,471.00 Pesos.
The monthly income requirements are reduced by 50% if you own and reside in your Mexican home. If this is the case, be sure to include a notarized copy of either the deed (escritura) or trust.
All that is required is proof that the minimum income is deposited in any financial institution, anywhere with credibility, be it the US, Europe, or offshore institution. Even a stock brokerage account, showing the requisite income, has proved sufficient, both in obtaining an original FM-3, both within Mexico at the local immigration office and at an overseas Mexican Consulate.
Do I need it?
Not necessarily, it is simply another option. The advantage to an FM-2 is that after renewing it consecutively for five years, you become eligible to immigrate into the country. |
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Ben Round de Bloc
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| Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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| I think bajabum's info in the post above is geared toward obtaining non-work visas, especially the parts about needing a Mexican attorney to help with the process and providing proof of income. |
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Samantha
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| Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Right...and each INAMI delgation handles things a bit differently so some of that reposted information is inaccurate as far as my area goes. In my local immigration office, they will only issue an FM2 to a retired expat after first holding an FM3 for a specific time period. It is quite difficult to first obtain an FM2 and I can't see a real advantage. On an FM2 there are restrictions as to how much time you may be out of Mexico over the 5 year period and fines are levied if that specified period is exceeded. It is possible to apply for Mexican citizenship after 5 years on an FM3 now (or after 2 years of marriage to a Mexican). The citizenship process is handled by a different government body than Immigration and takes up to 18 months. |
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TheLongWayHome
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| Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks to the above posters. I'm a little less confused now, although I just found this:
| FAQ wrote: |
How can I obtain Mexican nationality?
As set forth in article 30 part B paragraph II of the Constitution of the United Mexican States, and articles 17, 19 and 20 paragraph I of the Law of Nationality, nationality can be requested under the following circumstances:
Residency.- The foreigner who wishes to become a naturalized Mexican citizen must prove (among other requirements) that he/she has resided in Mexico for at least the five-year period immediately prior to the date of his/her application (this residency must be proven through the migration forms FM2 or FM3 issued by the Interior Ministry)
In the following cases, the foreigner who wishes to become a naturalized Mexican citizen must prove (among other requirements) residency of two years immediately prior to the date of his/her application:
If he/she has children who were born Mexicans.
If he/she comes from a Latin American country or from the Iberian peninsula.
If he/she is directly descended from an individual who is Mexican by birth.
It is important to note that if Mexican nationality is obtained, the interested party must renounce his/her original nationality. |
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Samantha
Joined: 25 Oct 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| The very last statement "It is important to note that if Mexican nationality is obtained, the interested party must renounce his/her original nationality" is completely false. |
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TheLongWayHome
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| Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| samantha wrote: |
| The very last statement is completely false. |
I thought so as most other sources say dual nationality is possible.
How are citizenship applications handled? What's the procedure? |
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