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JES or Aeon or other option?

 
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Lyrajean



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Location: going to Okinawa

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:50 am    Post subject: JES or Aeon or other option? Reply with quote

I am thinking about a TEFL job in Japan in the not so distant future. I'm 32 female, single, have an MA in a field unrelated to teaching, a year of survival Japanese, and will soon have a TEFL cert. from a small private college (that has exchange english programs with several Japanese schools). As of next week I will have been teaching a mixed nat. IEP/ESL conversation class at this school for 4 weeks. I have one publication credit to my name and am a verteran presenter at academic conferences. I need full time work and to clear the equilavent of US$320 a month above bills to deal with student loans.

As far as I can tell, Aeon and JES are the two eikaiwa with the least complaints of the bigger schools. More than $3000 is hard for me to get together in a year and I don't want my Japanese to get so rusty it's useless by then.

Am I aiming too low?

Also can anyone weigh the pulses and minuses of the two schools? I'm also wondering about living in Tohoku specifically. Anyone lived there or worked for JES? Anyone who does not want to speak publicly can PM me. THX!
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womblingfree



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:21 pm    Post subject: Re: JES or Aeon or other option? Reply with quote

Lyrajean wrote:
I need full time work and to clear the equilavent of US$320 a month above bills to deal with student loans.


Starting salary 250,000 to 280,000. Let's work to a low salary and an average rent around Tokyo.

Salary:250,000

-rent: 75,000
-bills: 10,000
-food/drink/socialising, up to you but let's say: 100,000

= 65,000 left over, almost double what you need.

I managed to save/pay off loans at about $10,000 every year on an eikaiwa salary. Still had a great time and went out loads.
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some information here on James English school.
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Glenski



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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lyrajean,
You are not setting your sights too low. You are qualified only for conversation schools and the JET program. BTW, JET pays 300,000 yen/month, JET pays airfare, and you might even get some or all of your rent paid for by JET. Everyone's situation varies on that last point. Also, with JET, you get your evenings and Sat/Sun off, and you are (usually) not responsible for much in the classroom because you are an assistant. Negatives about JET:
1. You are an assistant, so if you had aspirations of being in charge, forget it.
2. You work in public schools, which means you get 30-40 students per class instead of 5 or 6 as in eikaiwa. Also, motivation is the pits in public schools.
3. After 3 years (or a rare case of 5), you are done with JET and have to find other employment.
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski, shes referring to James English school in Tohoku, not the JET program.




Glenski wrote:
Lyrajean,
You are not setting your sights too low. You are qualified only for conversation schools and the JET program. BTW, JET pays 300,000 yen/month, JET pays airfare, and you might even get some or all of your rent paid for by JET. Everyone's situation varies on that last point. Also, with JET, you get your evenings and Sat/Sun off, and you are (usually) not responsible for much in the classroom because you are an assistant. Negatives about JET:
1. You are an assistant, so if you had aspirations of being in charge, forget it.
2. You work in public schools, which means you get 30-40 students per class instead of 5 or 6 as in eikaiwa. Also, motivation is the pits in public schools.
3. After 3 years (or a rare case of 5), you are done with JET and have to find other employment.
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Lyrajean



Joined: 19 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Glenski"]Lyrajean,
You are not setting your sights too low. You are qualified only for conversation schools and the JET program. [quote]

Thanks for the input! But, as another poster already mentioned, I am considering the James English School. I would love to do JET. I would have liked to try the Japanese school system, but dispatch companies scare me.

I applied last year to JET. They turned me down. Unfortunately they never say why, so I'm not sure I should stick around and try again for next year as I'm closer to their upper age limit.

Anyway, I'd love to hear more from people about James English school and the Tohoku region. I'm not stuck on being in/near Tokyo. I would like to be in a city even a small one. I would love recommends as to what city or company branch to aim for.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had not confused JES with JET. I was merely pointing out options. I would consider being 31 or 32 far from the upper age limit in JET (10 years to go, in fact). Considering what many younger JET ALTs fail to offer their schools, it only makes sense to hire the slightly older applicants. Personally, I think you MAY have been overqualified for JET, but, this thread isn't about why you didn't get the JET job.

Best of luck.
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