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Da Lin



Joined: 03 Nov 2005
Posts: 1
Location: Xiamen China

PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:18 am    Post subject: Warning King's English Xiamen Reply with quote

Money is good. hours are long. Student's are great. No one is in Charge. HR Dept. makes up new policies and rules everyday. Teachers work in a paranoic atmosphere with no one to address their concerns. I just won a case aganst Kng's with the Xiamen Labour Relation's Board for fring me wthout any notice as per the contract resulting n King's payng me a month's salary. John Delaney mp 13959296094
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YearOfTheDog



Joined: 22 Jan 2005
Posts: 159
Location: Peterborough, ON, Canada

PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for that indepth report....

Lets look at the good and bad....

GOOD

-Good money-----> Do we get to hear an amount? What does good money mean?
-Good Students ------> Class size ok then? Curriculum?

BAD

-Poor HR.
-No rules all the time
-Disorganized
-Fired you for no reason......


I was wondering if you could add more to this...How was accomidations? How did you hear about this school? How many teachers do you work with? What were you hours like??? 20 hrs a week or 40 hrs a week?

I think there needs to be a format when posting about bad schools, not just they suck! Run for your lives.
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jeffinflorida



Joined: 22 Dec 2004
Posts: 2024
Location: "I'm too proud to beg and too lazy to work" Uncle Fester, The Addams Family season two

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:17 am    Post subject: SCAM ALERT Reply with quote

I have been working for King's since May.

I can tell you what John says is true plus way more.

They are petty in every way. Everything is a fine and no one is in charge. Some girls who are tutors make up every rule.

But it's worse than that. While I was in the US they told me no problem they would get me an RP / Z visa. So when I got there they said they are not actullay licensed to get these yet so I must work on a tourist visa.

A Canadian teacher said they have been telling every teacher this same lie since she has worked there. So they lied to me from the beginning and can not legally hire teachers so everyone works illegally. Even worse than that you have to go to Honk Kong every month at your own expense on on your days off to get the 30 day extension.

King's International English has locations in Fuzhou, Xiamen, and Quanzhou and all should be avoided. They are owned by the same person and all teachers work on tourist visas and they have been raided once already.

SCAM WARNING FOR KING'S INTERNATIONAL ENGLISH AS THEY ARE TELLING TEACHERS TO COME ON A TOURIST VISA AND THEY WILL GET THEM AN RP / Z VISA WHEN THEY CAN NOT DO THIS.

Avoid this place at all costs. They lie and cheat. They owe me money and I doubt I will every get it back. They pay no medical, no airfare, no housing and take out taxes that they do not remit to the government. A teacher who tried get the 3000 bonus he was promised was told he would not get it - even though he completed the contract.

They are true scammers.
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tw



Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, so what goes around does indeed come acround.
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chufeng



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Posts: 32

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:19 am    Post subject: King's English Reply with quote

OK, so don't take this the wrong way, but when you showed up and they said "Oops, we lied. We can't get you a legal visa, so you'll have to work illegally, on your own expense, of course" then WHY DID YOU STAY? Why not just go apply for another job, since there are about 5000 ads a day on various websites? (I ask this in all sincerity, I'm truly curious. I am looking right now, and it is a nervewracking process with all of the scammers out there, but if I showed up and something like that happened, I would just walk away.)
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Shan-Shan



Joined: 28 Aug 2003
Posts: 1074
Location: electric pastures

PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I second this as yet unanswered question: "why stay?".

Despicable treatment blooms and sprouts from the misery all too many merry foreigners plant in the back gardens of rank language schools. These folk say some little prayer for better treatment every morning in the Ideal plastic Eden erected behind the Institute, that Image of China many have before arriving, and insist on keeping alive at great distress, and then waltz back inside the office for another day of getting stuck up the wazoo. Some perhaps like the feeling; those who would rather keep themselves from being ripped apart ought to leave!

If a school lies, and employs you illegally, you are also breaking the law! Get your Marco Polo head out of the gobi. Willfully accepting exploitation, you only help to perpetuate the vicious circle. China isn't all sweet grapes and incense. Sacrificing your integrity to remain in a position any monkey could fill makes you worse than those who brought you here on a lie, and manage to somehow keep you after the lie has been exposed over and over again.
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englishgibson



Joined: 09 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 6:16 am    Post subject: Warning King's English Xiamen Reply with quote

Ladies and gents,
The OP's given a valid warning out. Wink
Thanks OP, and I am sure others have noticed. Wink
And OP, it's great you've done well against the center. Smile
Cheers and beers Very Happy
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jeffinflorida



Joined: 22 Dec 2004
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Location: "I'm too proud to beg and too lazy to work" Uncle Fester, The Addams Family season two

PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I stayed for only 2 months. Then left. I am a little naive - even for a New Yorker. mI belive them when they said RP in a month.

I will return to the US possibly soon but have not decided what to do yet.

A trip to the PSB to report this school will happen next week.
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jeffinflorida



Joined: 22 Dec 2004
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Location: "I'm too proud to beg and too lazy to work" Uncle Fester, The Addams Family season two

PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tw wrote:
Ah, so what goes around does indeed come acround.


Was it my time to get the other end of the Bad Karma TW ????


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