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BigWally



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:45 pm    Post subject: Using Canadian ATM Cards? Reply with quote

I use the Royal Bank of Canada for all my banking, and I was wondering about the possibility of accessing my funds from an ATM in Kaohsiung. Would I be able to walk into a bank there and use my card (service charges dont matter) to access my Canadian account?

I have heard that it is possible, but then I have also heard it is not easily done at ALL ATM's. Any K-Town Kanadians Laughing have any input on this? (Banks to use, etc.)

I just want to plan on how much "cold hard cash" I should have with me when I initially arrive in Taiwan next week! Any recommendations on how much to carry on me during my trip would also be appreciated.

cheers!
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Dr_Zoidberg



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is Taiwan, not Canada. There are no rules here. Well, ok, there are rules, but the rules change from day to day, from person to person.

In other words, don't come here empty handed, expecting to access your funds back home through an ATM machine here. Whatever money you have, bring it with you in American Express traveller cheque form.
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TaoyuanSteve



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, Wally. Yes, you will be able access your Canadian accounts through ATMs here. Not every ATM you encounter will do this, however. You will have to match up network symbols on the back of your card with those displayed around the machine. Typically, a larger commercial bank's machines will support international transactions, but just look for the symbols on the back of your card. My S/O and I have withdrawn from our Canadian accounts here a few times. Many Taiwanese are businessmen and travellers who have multiple passports and residences abroad. Of course they want to be able to access those foreign accounts, so you certainly can here. Glad you mention you don't mind fees, because you will pay a fair bit in network fees for the priviledge.
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BigWally



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good stuff...I do have the "PLUS" insignia on the back of my bank card, and my thinking was that I could probably access my money from ATMs located within MAJOR banks, but not at ATMs one would find at say a grocery store or gas station.

Any local (kaohsiung) input would still be appreciated.

Cheers
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Pop Fly



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check with RBC....get them to commit and to give a contact number/person should the quest fail. It prolloy won't, but in case it does, have the bank set up to wire the money free of charge. Why,,,cuz they told you to use ATM.

Likewise, when you get am atm card here, specify that it will be used overseas. They must activate a toggle or something. This is also a fine way to send money home if you have someone you can trust with your cash.
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I_is_teach_English



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigWally wrote:
Good stuff...I do have the "PLUS" insignia on the back of my bank card, and my thinking was that I could probably access my money from ATMs located within MAJOR banks, but not at ATMs one would find at say a grocery store or gas station.


If you have PLUS (the one you have), CIRRUS, VISA or MASTERCARD symbols, then you'll find ATMs to use. Funnily enough, I find the China Trust ATMs in the ubiquitous 7-11s one of the easiest places to draw money on my British cards!

One of your biggest start up costs is going to be accomodation. It is fairly standard practice to pay 2 months deposit + 1st month's rent when you sign your contract, so if you're renting a NT$15,000 place, you're going to need NT$45,000 available in some form.
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BigWally



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah the setup costs are no problem as my GF and I are sharing costs, and we both have ballpark 2000-3000CDN saved up for initial costs...

thanks for the answers everyone
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Ki



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You won't have any problems accessing an ATM with a foreign bank card here. Well okay, some banks won't give you the English option but the plus symbol is a sure bet.

The big problem is with trying to use a Taiwanese bank card at an ATM overseas. Even when you request to be able to use it overseas it still may not work. Been there done that.
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dangerousapple



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've used my Bank of Kaohsiung ATM card every time I've gone back to Canada for a visit, and never had any problems. I have never requested any special usage permissions. I guess it could depend on which bank you use.
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BigWally



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about exchange rates from the ATMs...i assume Shocked that the exchange would be on par with whatever the market rate is for that day (as of today 1.00 CAD Canada Dollars = 29.2350 TWD Taiwan New Dollars)...

has any one else seen anything other than the standard rates from an ATM (service charges aside)?

thanks again for all the responses! Surprised

cheers
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I_is_teach_English



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigWally wrote:
what about exchange rates from the ATMs...i assume Shocked that the exchange would be on par with whatever the market rate is for that day (as of today 1.00 CAD Canada Dollars = 29.2350 TWD Taiwan New Dollars)...


Not a chance! Smile Bank rates will always be lower when you're buying and higher when you're selling - this is called the 'spread' and is how financial institutions make money on currency transactions. For example, if you withdrew NT$29,000 they would use a rate of 1=29, costing you CAD$1,000. If you then tried to sell them NT$ to pay off this CAD$1,000 they would use a higher rate of 1=29.5, thus costing you NT$29,500. They have just made NT$500 on the transaction! I'm just using figures here for an example, if you contact your bank you should be able to find out what their sell (your buy) and buy (your sell) rates are.
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AQUA MARINA



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject: Is anyone with President's Choice Bank? Reply with quote

I spoke to my bank today and they say that I should be able to use my debit ATM card internationally at any PLUS or Interac Symbol machine.

Only thing is they can't gurantee that the Int'l machine will recognize the card.

They also say I can do my usual banking online.

Do you have any problems seeing this overthere? www.pcfinancial.ca
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markholmes



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you have any problems seeing this overthere? www.pcfinancial.ca

Yes, it's upside down, so I just flip the monitor over and hey presto!!

Sorry, I couldn't resist it. I don't think you'll have any problem with online banking. I got all my statements sent to Taiwan too.
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AQUA MARINA



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing

Ok ok I had that one coming.

I had to be certain.

Thanks!
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db108108



Joined: 15 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be careful with PC Financial. My friend, who went to live in Spain for a year, learned the hard way that PC Financial cards do not work in many countries. I guess that's the price to pay for free banking.
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