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Tara2117

Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 89 Location: Gunma, Japan
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:20 am Post subject: "Reach to Teach"... personal experiences? |
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Hi guys,
I'm pretty new to this whole TESL thing. I stumbled across this program on the net...
http://reachtoteachrecruiting.com/
According to the site, they help place teachers in China, Korea, Taiwan, and Japan. Are any of you presently employed via this program, or have you been in the past? I'd like to know whether it's a good program to apply for, and what your personal experience has been like. (I don't have my heart set on any particular country. I'm interested in teaching in Asia in general.) I can't seem to find much first-hand information on it. Thanks in advance!
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saint57

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 1221 Location: Beyond the Dune Sea
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:36 am Post subject: |
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Welcome to hell!
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Tara2117

Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 89 Location: Gunma, Japan
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Really? Care to elaborate? |
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saint57

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 1221 Location: Beyond the Dune Sea
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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I have no personal experience with the company. However, they are recruiters which means nothing but trouble. There is no need to use a recruiter for China. Most Korean hogwans hire using recruiters but it's part of the scam. You're much better off dealing with the schools directly. I don't personally know about the situation in Taiwan but most people seem to fly there and find employment on their own.
The problem with recruiters is that they don't represent the company they are hiring for and what they tell/assure you will cause problems once you learn the way things really work. |
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SandyMcIvor

Joined: 12 Jun 2005 Posts: 31 Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:08 am Post subject: |
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Recruiters are the pimps of the EFL world. They will tell you ANYTHING to get you into bed with the employer, they take their cut, and its YOUR BUTT that gets all the abuse.
Under no circumstances *beep* yourself out with a recruiter. There are plenty of postings here on Daves, at Tefl.com and tesol.org and other sites.
You've got to sell that ass, at least make it on YOUR own terms.
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Tara2117

Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 89 Location: Gunma, Japan
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the input. I just thought it might be easier to find a job through a company. In any case, I'm not planning to go anywhere until late next year, so I've got plenty of time to research. I appreciate the advice.  |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:38 am Post subject: |
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I can't speak for any country except Japan (curiously absent from Reach to Teach's list of major Asian players; I wonder why?), so here is my take.
Aside from a few spelling errors and other types of errors in the way the site is written, I am immediately suspicious of a place that says:
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| The teaching opportunities we represent are only with reputable and professional ESL schools. |
yet charges you nothing. Here in Japan, the big schools (big four or five, that is) do all of their own recruiting, mostly abroad, so they have no need for R2T.
Also, I am suspicious of any outfit that can get you such a position without you doing any interviewing. I know that's partly how a recruiter works, but don't you think that once they've made contact with a potential employer, that you should actually interview with him? The site doesn't seem to mention that, only that you interview by phone with R2T.
Approach with caution. Nothing in life is free. |
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Tara2117

Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 89 Location: Gunma, Japan
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:57 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Glenski. I admit it does sound a little too good to be true. I found a guy on myspace who's just left to teach in Taiwan with R2T, and he's going to let me know how it goes. He did say that of the three schools R2T put him in contact with, two were school's he'd already found through his own research. All he had to do was interview with R2T, didn't have to interview with the school itself as far as I understand. Kind of shady. Anyway, if it's a total scam I'm sure he'll find out soon.
I think it is a relatively new program, that's why I've had a hard time finding anyone who's gotten a job through them. In any case, I'll see what the myspace guy has to say as his job progresses. |
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