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blondie10



Joined: 12 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:24 am    Post subject: Question from a Japanese Student Reply with quote

Help!

One of my students asked me: What is the most polite or proper way to say "I have to go to the restroom, bathroom, WC, etc." I am at a loss as to say what the most polite or proper phrasing would be. Any suggestions?
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canuck



Joined: 11 May 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:44 am    Post subject: Re: Question from a Japanese Student Reply with quote

blondie10 wrote:
Help!

One of my students asked me: What is the most polite or proper way to say "I have to go to the restroom, bathroom, WC, etc." I am at a loss as to say what the most polite or proper phrasing would be. Any suggestions?




Excuse me kind sir...May I beg your pardon? I'm sorry to trouble you. This shall only take a brief moment of your precious time. Kindly, if it's not too much trouble, out of the goodness of your kind and warm heart, would it be possible to direct me to an area where I might be able to use the facilities? Rolling Eyes I need to negociate the release of some chocolate hostages.
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The most polite way isn't necessarily the most natural way, as we can see from the above example. Also keep in mind that for most people in the UK, NZ and Australia, the bathroom is where we go to take a bath or shower- possible confusion there.
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markle



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where I'm from
Mate, gotta drain the Dragon, where's the nearest tree?
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blondie,
A lot will depend on the age of the student and where he/she is.

School: many places say lavatory.
Shop: many places say rest room, WC, or toilet (country-specific)
Home: toilet, bathroom (country-specific)

Some people are used to saying, Where's the little boys'/girls' room?

What are the circumstances? A toddler who needs to go, or an adult? Classroom or public facility?

Answers will vary.

My two generic answers:
Excuse me, teacher, but I have to use the (insert country-specific word).
Excuse me, [insert friend or acquaintance or storekeeper name], but could you tell me where the (country-specific word) is?
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Bozo Yoroshiku



Joined: 22 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apsara wrote:
Also keep in mind that for most people in the UK, NZ and Australia, the bathroom is where we go to take a bath or shower- possible confusion there.

I was in Quebec as a young lad and, in my oh-so-fluent French, I asked to go to the washroom... to my embarrassment and my hosts confusion, they led me to where they did their laundry.


--boz
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callmesim



Joined: 27 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Excuse me, where's the toilet?" if you're after the location.
"Excuse me, may I go to the toilet?" if you're asking permission.

Saying toilet won't confuse anyone. Nor will bathroom in most cases. If someone asked me where the bathroom was, I wouldn't direct them to a seperate bathroom area. Unless they were a eejit and I felt like having fun.
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wintersweet



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think "restroom," "men's room," or "ladies' room" is more polite than "toilet" (at least in the US). I usually say "Excuse me, where is the ladies' room?" I have no idea what I'd say to a teacher--guess I've been out of high school too long (never had to *ask* in college/grad school). I suppose "May I go to the restroom?" would be OK.
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konyoku



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think a simple note slipped unobtrusively to the teacher would suffice; if that doesn't work, then a decibel count on the sensitivity levels of the teacher should be tested.

OR

"Teacher, I'd like to request a temporary leave of absence. If I'm not back in 15 minutes, please call the plumber."
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king kakipi



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Gotta go and milk the maggot"
"Gotta go and unleash the trouser snake"
"Gotta go and shake hands with the unemployed"
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canuck



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Gotta see a man about a horse"
"Gotta drain the dragon."
"Looks like I need to drop off a few baked potatoes."
"Must gather some firewood and leave behind the petrified wood."

Or the classic, "I need to take a dump."
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Like a Rolling Stone



Joined: 27 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

canuck wrote:
"Gotta see a man about a horse"
"Must gather some firewood and leave behind the petrified wood."


These phrases have no meaning. Your weird!
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Eva Pilot



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The students I teach are taught to ask "May I use the bathroom?"
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canuck



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like a Rolling Stone wrote:
canuck wrote:
"Gotta see a man about a horse"
"Must gather some firewood and leave behind the petrified wood."


These phrases have no meaning. Your weird!


You're naive. I'll help improve that problem you have.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/See_a_man_about_a_horse


To see a man, to see a man about a dog, or to see a man about a horse is usually a smiling apology for one's departure or absence, used as a bland euphemism to conceal one's true purpose. The phrase has several meanings but all refer to taking one's leave for some urgent purpose, especially to go to the bathroom or going to buy a drink.
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Like a Rolling Stone



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe i am maive but maybe you are if you believe everything you read in wikipedia. 'To see a man, to see a man about a dog'. Who wrote that? YOU?
What do you say if you really are going to see a man about a horse? I am going to the stables now and i'm going to take a whizz in the paddock?
I think we should teach our students words more useful then that.
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