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[dreamin']

My education (two masters degrees), experience (3 years teaching ESL) and skills (directing theatre and creative writing) are not being utilised in my school. I'm in Jakarta and available - how do I get considered for a plum job in an International School? Any advice or leads greatly appreciated!

[happy_me]

huuuummmm. masters in??? threre it a list some where here, just look a round. good luck

[gugelhupf]

If I did know of plum jobs available at an international school like that, I would be typing my application letter and updating my CV right now instead of surfing the net while I mark these darn assignments...

[TEAM_PAPUA]

You have 2 masters degrees, but you can't google 'International Schools - Jakarta'?

WOW!

[dreamin']

Well, der, I got the lists - there's maybe a hundred! I was just hoping someone knew of any good leads ...

[rayman]

The number of "real" International Schools in Indonesia is actually closer to 15. If you have the list, then you've got started. If you want a foot in the door, you need to get out there and make some effort. Do you really think some stranger on a net chat board is going to offer a prized and sought after job to you?

[rayman]

Seeing you're in Jakarta, the number of International Schools is closer to 10.

[gugelhupf]

[guruengerish]

I know I am a pedantic old git, but since when did the word "WANNA" become part of the English language?

Is there a faint hope that an English teacher (elect) might spell correctly, even if the spoken bit is slightly off?

[happy_me]

Hay, guruengerish, dunt gets yer hops up to much, cus u's know we's only geten it write cus I's has de spell chkez dealy bob.

[java_gila]

It's been ages that Americans are using Wanna, Gonna, etc....

Update yourself guruengrish because all those slangs are in the new TOEFL IBT.

REAL ENGLISH from America

Jack

[TEAM_PAPUA]

REAL ENGLISH from America is simply a ba5tardized version of English: normally spoken by uneducated people.

[guruengerish]

hey, we're speaking about International English. You mentioned that 'gonna, wanna' etc are in TOEFL. This is no longer used as a basis for tertiary education entry in many English speaking countries.

Americans may not like this, but many of us are somewhat fatigued with mis-spelt words, mis-pronounced words, or simplified use (the three US uses of check being but one example).

At my last university, students were warned not to use US English, or lose marks.

So even if you can't pronounce the words, please try and spell them correctly.

[DABIGD]

Gimme a break! Spending one's time so deeply "in the gnat's ass" on this subject is ridiculous. Do your students spell correctly(whether the American form or whatever form you use)? Do you understand your students when they speak English? Congratulations. If you can't make any sense out of American English perhaps you shouldn't be teaching as the form you are so familiar with is dying a blessedly rapid death. Teachers who waste their/our time berating one form of English because they speak and write another form are boring. What a bunch of pompous asses... Remember, English is constantly changing and adjusting with the times as it is quite different now than it was 200, 50 or even 10 years ago. Please, find another subject to bore us with on the forum as this one is dead. My apologies for any spelling errors or incorrect sentence structure(the correction of which also wastes more time for us all by these idiots), but I'm in a rush. Right now, I'm off to "learn mah kids howta talk American" now.

[wannaBguru]

u gotta be kidding. are u guys really that insecure? what is international english? if u mean that english spoken by the vast majority of native speakers, then it would have to be the north american accent as both american and canadians use the same pronunciation with the exception of the "ou" vowel sound. at least there is a standard american accent that the vast majority of american speak. if u mean that international english should somehow be a british accent, which one are u talking about??????? north london, south london, liverpool, south england, what????????? have u ever tried to understand what wayne rooney is saying during an interview? or wait, maybe it is the australian accent we should all be striving to master.......... hmmm quite a bit of variation there too.

wouldnt an "international english" be a hodgepodge of all englishes and welcome contributions from each and every one of them?

sounds like a bunch of freudian p3nis envy because more people prefer american english. i mean when was the last time u heard an american complaining because their the majority of textbooks are written using british vocab and spelling? or that their students had contracted that deadly disease called british pronunciation? the vast majority of americans love the "british" accent and find british vocab really interesting. so what is the problem? american english is more like the original british pronunciation because of the great vowel shift that occcured in europe during the 15th to 18th centuries. so where is the bastardization now? why dont u pronunce school and schedule the same? also, the american accent more nearly resembles the pronunciation of bhs indo, so it is natural that indonesians would use american pronounciation.

wanna, gonna, djet (did u eat) etc are a natural result of speaking more quickly in a stress-timed language such as english. yes british people do it to, but not to the extent that americans do. but that is ok, feel superior about this if it helps u sleep at night. contractions are based on the same principle, but i guess u dont opps do not use any of these right?

misspellings??????? u mean like programme? good idea. why dont we all just spell everything phonetically and save esl students a world of grief? and vocab? how can u say one is right and one is wrong? torch vs. flashlight? windscreen vs windshield? why does one have to be wrong anyway? tons of words have been added in the last century. so if the invention occured in america and they decided to call it one thing (ex. flashlight) then the british decided to use "torch", then we better shoot all the americans for being so silly to think that they could make up a word without asking the true original english speakers first. according to guru and TP we should still be speaking william shakespere's english..... ye olde english. england has been controlling scotland and parts of ireland for how many centuries, and look at the inroads u have made in their pronunciation. and they are next door! or how about singapore and india? yup, your english is the one and only. grow up and get a life. american english is more widespread. taking marks from people at a university, unless they are in oz or the uk, is a like trying to sweep back the ocean with a broom. but keep trying. yes, lets punish them if it soothes your ego. i have never taken marks from someone for using british vocab or spelling, unless it is a toefl course. and who was the idiot that took the grammar rules from an unrelated language (latin) and superimposed them on english and caused all these problems in the first place????

and what is this about 3 wrong uses of check? dont know what u are talking about. but then again, boot and bonnet are parts of a car, not clothing, right? then again, americans do park in a driveway and drive on a parkway.

what is the big deal? the languages are 98% the same and mutually intelligible. we can all live and work here, regardless of our "native english". i for one am having a blast making a lot of money teaching students a language that doesnt make any sense. but stress out about petty, unimportant things if u choose.