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21 and want to live in Latin America for 6-12 mths
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NikNak



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:22 am    Post subject: 21 and want to live in Latin America for 6-12 mths Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

My Background:

-I'm 21 about to be 22
-I'm a college graduate with a Bachelors in Marketing
-I took 2 years of Spanish in H.S. started self-study with Pimsleur last
January, and have been using my friends here in Miami to help me get better
-My passion is in Public Relations/Event Planning, and networking is a
key factor in this business
-My home is Miami; I lived in NY and hated it. Miami has it problems but
I'd definitely choose Miami over NY
-Most businesses in Miami require bilinguals
-Besides bilingualism being a necessity, something in me tells me I HAVE
to do it, for my own personal accomplishment
-I work at a Media agency, and volunteer with an Event Planning firm
-I live on my own and pay off my loan/school debt

With that said, I've decided the best thing for me, is to throw myself in a Latin American country and learn Spanish the immersion way. There are a lot of Spanish speakers here, but to tell you the truth, it's hard to get a Spanish speaker to speak with you in Spanish, it's like they get impatient and revert to English whenever you seem confused. Besides that, I want to experience the culture. Granted, not every Latin American country is the same, but I'd have a better chance of understanding the so-called 'Hispanic" culture if I spend some time in at least one country. I've researched for about two weeks now, and determined that getting a position in advertising/pr would be extremely difficult because of my level of fluency in Spanish. I spoke with an expat in Korea who told me the easiest work to get is EFL teaching. I considered simply saving up to maintain my bills while I'm away, but I'd still have to take care of myself while I'm in the said Latin American country. I'm not as passionate about teaching as many of you guys are, and spending so much on a certificate that I would use no more than 6-12 months feels unnecessary, but I'm ABSOLUTELY, WITHOUT A DOUBT, certain that I want to spend some time in say Mexico or Colombia (my friends have swayed me into choosing these countries) to become fluent in Spanish and learn more about the culture. Do you guys have any advice as to how I should approach this situation? I do have a proclivity towards teaching, as I've been tutoring in elementary and middle schools my entire college career, and have assisted teachers in a classroom setting. How can I spend 6 months to a year in a Latin America country while paying off my $215/month debt?

Any ideas or advice are welcome.
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Ben Round de Bloc



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One possibility might be to work for one of the chain schools in Mexico. Most of them don't pay a lot, but they do provide free teacher training to potential employees. If you have enough money saved up in advance to supplement your teaching income and are willing to live rather conservatively for a year, it could work.
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lozwich



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:01 pm    Post subject: Re: 21 and want to live in Latin America for 6-12 mths Reply with quote

NikNak wrote:
I want to spend some time in say Mexico or Colombia (my friends have swayed me into choosing these countries) to become fluent in Spanish and learn more about the culture.


I think if you were to come to Colombia, you might have a bit of trouble earning enough money to pay your debt without a TEFL certificate.

Also, why have people told you to come to Colombia? Is it because they say that the Spanish spoken here is the "best"? I've also lived in Mexico and Spain and all the Spanishes I've learned are not better, worse or anything, they're just different. Just like any other language, they have regional differences, none is more "correct" than any other.

You sound very inspired, and I would suggest that you go to a country in Latin America that interests you, and maybe one that would help you make contacts when you return to Miami. This will help you experience the culture more deeply, because you will have a genuine interest and investment in doing so.

All the very best,
Lozwich.
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corporatehuman



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You also don't have to passionate about teaching. This does not necessarily make you a bad teacher either. As long as you are a social person, have a good time in class (the key), the time will breeze by.

I am in a slightly similar position as you, in that I specifically came to Mexico to learn Spanish, as well I was thinking of job prospects for the future.

Look into schools that offer teaching AND spanish classes. The one unfortunate part about teaching English is that you have to speak English, which can (I believe) slow down learning Spanish. Unfortunately, unless you have a lot of money just to enroll full time in Spanish class, you often have no choice.

Couple things to consider for your spanish and to 'immerse' yourself.

Head to a small town. Small towns have less English speakers. As well, since life can get very boring you'll have to befriend people.

Find a program that includes a homestay.

And last, hopefully a program which gives you time to continue your Spanish studies (if you need them).

it sounds like living in Miami has at least been a great start. I came to Mexico speaking absolutely no Spanish, having studied none, and it is really amazing how quickly you begin to retain the language. Even just a month makes a huge difference, and a year....

I don't know enough about Colombia to tell you where to go, or really enough about the whole of Mexico. I went to Mexico because I had some friends here, and I was told (as lozwich said) that Mexican Spanish was the 'best' one to learn.

Anyway, best of luck with your decision

- Chris
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NikNak



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:59 pm    Post subject: Re: 21 and want to live in Latin America for 6-12 mths Reply with quote

lozwich wrote:
NikNak wrote:
I want to spend some time in say Mexico or Colombia (my friends have swayed me into choosing these countries) to become fluent in Spanish and learn more about the culture.


Also, why have people told you to come to Colombia? Is it because they say that the Spanish spoken here is the "best"? I've also lived in Mexico and Spain and all the Spanishes I've learned are not better, worse or anything, they're just different. Just like any other language, they have regional differences, none is more "correct" than any other.


Haha Laughing , you're exactly right. They say Mexico because of it's close ties with U.S. business community and Columbia because it has the "best" Spanish.

The country that really really interests me is Cuba, but . . . The majority of the Miami Hispanic population is made up of Cubans, and they are very influentual. They actually had a book banned in Public schools here because it made Cuba seem like a good place, when apparently it really isn't.

My inspiration for wanting to go to a Latin American country is my cousin. She moved to Cuba to go to Medical School (Jamaica accepts doctors with degrees from Cuba) and spent an entire year solely dedicated to learning Spanish, because the classes taught would be spoken in Spanish.

I've been going over recommendations from family and friends and I've come up with these options:

1. Save and pay for a Spanish Immersion school, spend 1-2 months focusing on becoming fluent enough to apply for a job. Search for PR Firms and apply and hope I can find something soon enough to not worry about my funds.

2. Get an EFL job before I go, because this type of job doesn't require me to be fluent in Spanish, but I will be diverting my attention from the career I truly want.

Friends of mine tell me, I'll probably have to sacrifice one goal (at least for a while) to accomplish another. Becoming bilingual is really important to me, as well as having the chance to live in a culture unlike my own. I don't want to miss the opportunity because I was afraid or couldn't figure out a way to make it work. At the same time, my dream is to be a music publicist and this is a long term goal, people are telling me it's not worth to "lose" a year, because I might have to start over when I come back to the states.

Both options don't supply me with job security when I get back (and I'm ok with that but that means I have to take that into consideration as well when I'm saving)


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lozwich



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about finding a volunteer or internship program in Cuba?
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NikNak



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lozwich wrote:
What about finding a volunteer or internship program in Cuba?


I'm not sure how well that would be received in these parts. Sad There are a few countries that interest me Latin America or the Caribbean. My brother moved to Mexico (wherever the Zapatistas stay) for three months and had great things to say about his experience, granted his reason for going is totally different from mine.

I'm kind of torn, I actually want to be a part of Corporate America, and be able to afford to take care of my family (parents) when the time comes. At the same time the stuff that interest me, are different political economies, and how people get along in a non-Capitalist situation.

Right now, I'm mostly focused on the best country to learn Spanish in, and I'm taking into consideration safety, ability to support myself ( I don't have to explore the country and spend all my cash) , and not so much race relations (but I've heard to stay away from Dominican Republic because despite them being of African descent they despise Blackness and will make outsiders of African descent feel very uncomfortable).
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NikNak



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I've been conversing with English First, and someone at Harmon Hall, and they are telling me they can't find me work unless I'm willing to get a TEFL certificate. I checked up on it and unless I'm being misinformed, it will cost me around US$1,000 to take an intensive 4