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Good old American-style Pizza
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luckyloser700



Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:26 pm    Post subject: Good old American-style Pizza Reply with quote

This one's for you, A. Prime.

I know the Italians invented it (Do I know that for sure? Guess not) and the Japanese are free to go for whatever bastardization of real pizza they see fit, but I'm looking for a place around the Tokyo/Yokohama area that has real American-style pizza. Preferably New York style.

Anyone know of any places?
I already know about Domino's and Pizza Hut. Ain't interested.

Whoever coined the phrase "There's no such thing as bad pizza" probably never knew about ebi-mayo or pizza with eggs and squid on it. I get enough of that in the regular Japanese food I eat, don't put it on my f'ing pizza, please.
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Ai



Joined: 02 Jun 2006
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Location: Chile

PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Costco in Makuhari, Chiba has the closest thing to good american pizza I've found.
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Like a Rolling Stone



Joined: 27 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some American dude tried to patent the word pizza and he said Italians don't know how to make pizza. how funy!
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wolfman



Joined: 18 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like a Rolling Stone wrote:
some American dude tried to patent the word pizza and he said Italians don't know how to make pizza. how funy!


Having had pizza in both America and Italy, I'm inclined to agree.
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wintersweet



Joined: 18 Jan 2005
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Location: San Francisco Bay Area

PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose it could be worth a look here:
http://bento.com/r-ital.html
and here:
http://bento.com/r-amer.html

ctrl-F for "pizza"

Weirdly, after many mayo-corn-shrimp combos that I couldn't eat when I was in Taiwan, I had the best pizza I've ever had in my life there, too. It was an amazing thin-crust pizza margherita, and I am still looking for its equal. So good. Anyway, I hope you find something like that yourself.
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cappuck



Joined: 17 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.pizzakaya.com/index_e.html

It's likely the best around. However, the last time I ordered in from there, I wasn't too impressed.

Anyway, give it a go...
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JimDunlop2



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good grief! I can't believe anyone hasn't suggested Shakey's Pizza yet... Best American-style pizza this side of the Pacific (aside from the stuff you can get at Costco)....

There's one in Omotesando and another near Ikebukuro Sta. I know there are others as well but those are two that I've been to.

Hope that helps! Smile
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cappuck



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JD, you can't be serious! That's the lousiest, greasiest stuff you can get anywhere around! The crust is like cardboard and it's horrible. They have that all-you-can-eat special in Omotesando but it's filled with high school boneheads and the place is as gross as the pizza itself.

Try Pizzakaya. Like I said, it's quite good. Just the last time I ordered the special, I wasn't impressed as I found they seemed to get a bit skimpy on the cheese and sauce.
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JimDunlop2



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everything's a matter of taste, now isn't it?
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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont know if they have it in Tokyo but Capriccosia restaurant (in Kyoto and Osaka) makes superb pizzas.
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gaijinalways



Joined: 29 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shakey's is not bad, but they also do Japanese style types, so the Japanese versions are hardly American sometimes (still a nice filler, and depends on the branch you go to for the kinds of crowds that go there.

There are a few Italian restaurants that do very nice pizza in Tokyo, I'll see if I can dig up the names for you.

As to pizza's origin, it actually originated in the Mesopotamia area some time ago. Though I doubt it shared much similarity with today's different versions, which are all different and make for enjoyable eating (including some Japanese versions Wink ).
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cappuck



Joined: 17 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you like Shakey's, you haven't eaten much really good pizza. That's all I'm gonna say!
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kevinyam



Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try Nicola's pizza. They have a few franchises in Ueno, Shimbashi, and Roppongi. Decent pizza but worth checking out just for the colorful history of the franchise.

If anyone has read "Tokyo Underground" you know what I'm talking about.
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bshabu



Joined: 03 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cappuck wrote:
If you like Shakey's, you haven't eaten much really good pizza. That's all I'm gonna say!


I agree. The only time I eat at Shakey's was when I was a college student near Kyoto. All you can eat at a fare price, but I wasn't too happy about it.
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Chris21



Joined: 30 Apr 2006
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pizza Hut is good... but I always go with the custom-made pizzas, none of that Seafood Special with shrimp and crab. Order a basic large pizza, and throw on some toppings (bacon, green peppers, mushroom), as good as any pizza back home. I love the thick crust, but I'd stay away from that cheese-crust or wiener-crust. Anyway, Pizza Hut is at the top of my list.

Dominoes and Costco pizzas are pretty good too. For all-you-can-eat, Shakey's is the place to go, but it's not that good (good bargain though). I'm definitely not a fan of the thin-crust pizzas with cut-up hot dogs and ketchup. La Pausa is one of the worst.

Probably the best pizza I've had in Japan was at a restaurant just south of Motomachi station in Kobe, but sadly it's gone now.
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