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markle



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:32 am    Post subject: alternatives to No. 1 Travel Reply with quote

I want to book a flight to Melbourne out of Nagoya or Osaka next month and want to do some shopping around, so any suggestions on websites and/or travel agents.

Yes, I have done a search but I really have better things to do than sift thru 500 unrelated posts
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furiousmilksheikali



Joined: 31 Jul 2006
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Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:38 am    Post subject: Re: alternatives to No. 1 Travel Reply with quote

markle wrote:
Yes, I have done a search but I really have better things to do than sift thru 500 unrelated posts


I was about to look up some travel agents in a few magazines I have but after reading your last line I realized I have better things to do myself.

You could have a look in Japanzine, there are usually some travel agents advertising in there, or the Kansai Time Out if you're in the Kansai region.

Some newspapers such as the Yomiuri and Japan Times also carry adverts for travel agents.
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wolfman



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:43 am    Post subject: Re: alternatives to No. 1 Travel Reply with quote

furiousmilksheikali wrote:
markle wrote:
Yes, I have done a search but I really have better things to do than sift thru 500 unrelated posts


I was about to look up some travel agents in a few magazines I have but after reading your last line I realized I have better things to do myself.


I can't really fault him. It seems like 9 out of 10 times someone asks a question around here it's met with, "USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION, N00B!"
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furiousmilksheikali



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:44 am    Post subject: Re: alternatives to No. 1 Travel Reply with quote

wolfman wrote:
furiousmilksheikali wrote:
markle wrote:
Yes, I have done a search but I really have better things to do than sift thru 500 unrelated posts


I was about to look up some travel agents in a few magazines I have but after reading your last line I realized I have better things to do myself.


I can't really fault him. It seems like 9 out of 10 times someone asks a question around here it's met with, "USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION, N00B!"


I don't fault him either, I am in agreement. We both have better things to do with our time.
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wolfman



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:51 am    Post subject: Re: alternatives to No. 1 Travel Reply with quote

furiousmilksheikali wrote:
wolfman wrote:
furiousmilksheikali wrote:
markle wrote:
Yes, I have done a search but I really have better things to do than sift thru 500 unrelated posts


I was about to look up some travel agents in a few magazines I have but after reading your last line I realized I have better things to do myself.


I can't really fault him. It seems like 9 out of 10 times someone asks a question around here it's met with, "USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION, N00B!"


I don't fault him either, I am in agreement. We both have better things to do with our time.


Haha, good reply. I wasn't saying you were faulting him... I just think it's understandable that people are starting to put disclaimers like that one in their posts.
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JimDunlop2



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, at least it shows SOME effort on the part of an OP if he/she says that they've already tried searching...

On the other hand, it's hard to teach a man to fish when he doesn't have a rod, and doesn't know where to buy one or how to build one.... Perhaps what the world needs is not people teaching men how to fish, but start with the basics, like "how to build a rod 101".

Anyway, metaphors aside, I suppose it comes easy to me, as I've studied the workings of search engines quite extensively. I even offered a mini-course when I was teaching Internet skills at a college -- How to use a search engine effectively. It was fairly basic stuff, but many people have never even heard the expression "Boolean logic" -- something on which many search engines are based.

OP:
I did a search for travel agencies on Dave's and came up with 13 results (as opposed to 500) -- which are probably fairly relevant... But I also don't feel like wading through them to find the best bargain company for you.... But I WILL tell you how I whittled it down to 13 results...

As search terms I used: travel agency flight
Underneath that I selected: Search for all terms (as opposed to Search for any terms or use query as entered). This puts the word "AND" in between your search terms, narrowing things a lot more than the word "OR".

Then, underneath that, I narrowed the search field to the Japan forum only -- lest I come up with Thai-based or China-based companies...

That's it.... Hope that helps.

Just as an additional FYI though, I've been using www.ab-road.net to search for Japanese travel agencies that advertise the lowest fares to any given location. They are not a travel agency themselves, but they provide you with links to them. And guess what? No.1/HIS or any of the ones you see in the Daily Yomiuri are NOWHERE to be seen on the list... Having booked a flight to visit Canada this Christmas, I can safely say that the ones advertised in the newspaper can't even compete with the small mom & pop shops I've found on AB-Road. Disclaimer: Most of these small agencies don't have an English-speaker on staff, so please be prepared to deal with them entirely in Japanese, or have someone who can speak reasonably well help you out with the call.

Hope that helps.
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markle



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you gentlemen I have gone back and got lucky with a search of "airline tickets" not "travel agencies" sometimes I think the search function here is less 'search engine' more 'needle in haystack actualizer'

Any other suggestions beside IACE, A'cross and Hit travel
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markle



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JimDunlop2 wrote:

Underneath that I selected: Search for all terms (as opposed to Search for any terms or use query as entered). This puts the word "AND" in between your search terms, narrowing things a lot more than the word "OR".


That would have been the silver bullet to my problems and I will keep it in mind.
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japan_01



Joined: 04 Mar 2006
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Location: Gifu Ken

PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have found that No.1's father company (H.I.S) is cheaper.
Go to www.his.co.jp and click on the NAGOYA tab.

Also, if you are travelling with someone else (2 or more)
I REALLY REALLY REALLY recommend Toraberu kochan.
Have a look at www1.tour.ne.jp (All Japanese) and check out the prices.
The price includes hotel accommodation but is often cheaper than purchasing a ticket alone.
For example, a 5 day package from Tokyo to Sydney is 64,800yen including flights and accomodation. You may be able to find a cheap domestic flight from Sydney to Melbourne. Just an idea anywhere. Good LUCK!
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ndorfn



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

try STA travel, they can respond to emails in english.

also, if you can read a bit of the local lingo, try the travel section of yahoo japan.
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JimDunlop2



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

japan_01 wrote:

Have a look at www1.tour.ne.jp (All Japanese) and check out the prices.
The price includes hotel accommodation but is often cheaper than purchasing a ticket alone.
For example, a 5 day package from Tokyo to Sydney is 64,800yen including flights and accomodation. You may be able to find a cheap domestic flight from Sydney to Melbourne.


Not a bad suggestion... However I usually find those hotel/air packages too good to be true... I just checked ab-road and without accommodations, you're looking at 40,000 (compared to 68400) and that's directly from Nagoya to Melbourne (without having to look for a cheap domestic from Sydney). Any time I see some of these "hotel specials" deals -- I get VERY skeptical of them... I also went to look at 1.tour to see what Edmonton at Christmas would cost me -- 243,000 yen! Ouch! I'm paying about 85,000.

I do think that HIS and No.1 should be avoided as a matter of principle for illegally discriminating against non-Japanese customers and jacking the prices accordingly.
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TK4Lakers



Joined: 06 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bookmarked this page awhile ago....glad it came in handy.

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=41971
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J.



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:33 am    Post subject: Legend Travel Reply with quote

I also have had it with No.1, so looked around for another convenient place. I found Legend Travel. They have a woman who speaks excellent English, all our correspondence was by email, and I got an e-ticket with web check in. I was also satisfied with the price and politeness, service I got there. Couldn't have been more convenient, as I also paid by bank transfer. No picking the ticket up at the airport at the last minute as No 1 makes you do ( when you're in a hurry). And with the web check in from my home the prevoius day, I was able to get there a bit later and breeze right through. I am recommending that you check out Legend if you haven't already found an agency. I will stick with them for my next trip.

http://www.legendtravel.co.jp/


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earthmonkey



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Location: Meguro-Ku Tokyo

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've used this company. It was pretty good. They are in Tokyo, but it's e-ticketing, so you don't need to go there.

http://www.airnetjapan.com/index2.php
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japan_01



Joined: 04 Mar 2006
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Location: Gifu Ken

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[/quote]
Not a bad suggestion... However I usually find those hotel/air packages too good to be true... I just checked ab-road and without accommodations, you're looking at 40,000 (compared to 68400) and that's directly from Nagoya to Melbourne (without having to look for a cheap domestic from Sydney). Any time I see some of these "hotel specials" deals -- I get VERY skeptical of them... I also went to look at 1.tour to see what Edmonton at Christmas would cost me -- 243,000 yen! Ouch! I'm paying about 85,000.

I do think that HIS and No.1 should be avoided as a matter of principle for illegally discriminating against non-Japanese customers and jacking the prices accordingly.[/quote]

Toraberu Kochan is a cheap, trusted travel agent that many Japanese people use. I was recommended the company by many of my Japanese friends. However, it is really not suitable for 1 person. You need 2 people to get the full benefits.
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