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ckhl
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It is my experience that there are very few promotion opportunities as those who get in to management positions will die on the job rather than leave as for most this is the best they would achieve and in some cases they would never get the opportunity elsewhere.
Indeed. I've seen quite a few reaching their "Peter Principle". |
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tiberio
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ad promotion) maybe just a newcomer's impression, but in the short time i have been at hct, i have seen two internal promotions, which kind of sounds promising to me. in my location there is two colleges, i am at the men's college, but at the women's there is a guy who made supervisor after two years, so again, this does sound promising, but maybe reality will catch up with me and it wont be as it seems. for the start it does look good though...
ad reuse & such) as vs mentioned, it is the full thing, lecture notes, powerpoints, testbanks, exercises, even quizzes and exams are there already. all i need to do is change the date, even the section numbers are similar. this way, i dont have the problem i expected in the first place teaching those twenty hours, which actually just came down to 16 the other day for admin reasons.
re sw: ad my publications) i do publish in reasonable two and three star journals (british system), obviously you cant read them as this would involve my real name...
ad research budget or funding a phd) for sure not. even as a newcomer i know this will never ever be the case here.
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dmb
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| What's an example of a 2 or 3 * journal? Do you get 5* journals like hotels. If so, what are the criteria? |
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tiberio
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| dmb wrote: |
| What's an example of a 2 or 3 * journal? Do you get 5* journals like hotels. If so, what are the criteria? |
the criteria used to differ among unis, but for UK the RAE (research assessment exercise) has taken care of this. basically it is like hotels. the nicer the environment and the longer the brand name has been around, the more stars, only that there is no 5 stars, it is only 0 - 4, so i am happy getting 2 and 3 star publications out, reasonably happy with 2 star and very happy with 3 star.
in UK they now also categorise all research staff in star rankings, again mostly based on star rated publications (http://education.guardian.co.uk/egweekly/story/0,5500,1530915,00.html)
harvard business review is one you certainly know, which has 4 stars, most of the two and three star ones depend on your area and a simple metric is always how many points you have in total. 10 points (e.g. 3 publications in 3 star journals and 1 in a 1 star or 5 in 2 star journals) are entry level for a reasonable lecturer position in most UK unis now, as for a lot of the unis in continental Europe.
does that make more sense now? |
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dmb
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for the link.
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But the weight given to each of the three categories will vary from subject to subject. Medical subjects intend to give 75% of their weightings to output, 20% to the research environment (half of that based on income) and 5% to esteem.
Chemical engineers, on the other hand, will give 50% for output and 30% for esteem - in which they include consultancies and exploitation by industry, as well as prizes. Where engineering departments claim that their applied research is helping industry, they will have to give the name of a senior industrialist to back the claim. |
What's the weighting for EFL? |
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tiberio
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| dmb wrote: |
| What's the weighting for EFL? |
30% complaining all the time but still here because no idea what else to do
30% fleeing into sarcasm while trying hard to uphold pseudo humanistic views and telling hero tales of how well they treat their maids
30% simply being nice guys
10% being friendly, caring, open-minded, courteous, impressive and most interesting to talk to.
just a rough guess... |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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I'd say that was a pretty accurate breakdown... 
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dmb
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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| That's kind of what I thought. |
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dmb
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Darn, VS beat me. Where's that edit button gone. Can't agree with VS. |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:22 am Post subject: |
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Victory is MINE!!
But wait... I remember once a few years ago that we agreed on something... 
(don't worry, I'm sure that no one will notice or remember...)
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ckhl
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:36 am Post subject: |
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but in the short time i have been at hct, i have seen two internal promotions, which kind of sounds promising to me. in my location there is two colleges, i am at the men's college, but at the women's there is a guy who made supervisor after two years, so again, this does sound promising, but maybe reality will catch up with me and it wont be as it seems. for the start it does look good though
Do I detect a case of "supervisoritis"? Don't tell me you're one of those ambitious types, a budding crony. It appears that the marginal extra pay a supervisor receives isn't worth the headaches. In fact, if as a facutly member, you've capped out on the scale you may be making more than a junior supervisor.. |
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Bindair Dundat
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 5:35 am Post subject: Re: Possibilities for doing PHds |
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| football wrote: |
| Anyway, why would you want to do a PHd if all you need to teach at HCT is a Masters? |
If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand the answer. |
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ckhl
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand the answer.
Huh? I guess we're dumber than you. Pray enlighten us, if you please. |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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Obvious... one wants a PhD in order to move up and out of HCT... which is why they don't pay for people to get one.
VS |
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turtlepi1
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:37 am Post subject: |
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| veiledsentiments wrote: |
Obvious... one wants a PhD in order to move up and out of HCT... which is why they don't pay for people to get one.
VS |
Yeah, that's it.
Life-long learning...
Thirst for knowledge...
Professional development...
Nah, just to get a different job. 
(sorry VS..couldn't resist) |
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