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Canadians to lose Citizenship after long stay overseas!

 
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ghost



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:59 pm    Post subject: Canadians to lose Citizenship after long stay overseas! Reply with quote

Folks:

Canadians who also hold another passport (duel citizens) look like they will have to make a choice with regard to citizenship in the future, if the plans of Steven Harper and the Conservative Canadian Government go into effect in the future.

This whole issue came about after over 80 million dollars were spent in bringing home to Canada approximately 15.000 Lebanese Canadians this past summer. Many of those so called Canadians had obtained their Canadian Citizenship years ago, and then immediately went back to where they had come from (Lebanon). In essence they obtained Canadian Citizenship as a kind of 'insurance' (health care) and for the future pension benefits. Also the Lebanese Canadians who were brought back to Canada, at great expense, paid not a cent for their return home. Canada was the only country which did not charge the returnees.

Things came to a head last week when reports revealed that approximately 7,000 of those people in Lebanon who had been repatriated to Canada, have now gone back to Lebanon! Naturally, Harper and his supporters are furious at this turn of events, and they want to review the whole issue of who really is Canadian, and who the others are....essentially fraudsters who just want a passport of convenience. It is anticipated that the flow back to Lebanon will reach about 12.000 to 13.000 by Christmas 2006, and in effect this means that those 80 million dollars spent, were effectively wasted on people (Lebanese Canadians) who abused the system.

Even people like Ghost, who holds Citizenship from three countries, will have to make a choice in the future, if the Harper plans get the go ahead and are rubber stamped for approval and law.

Many Canadian teachers in Turkey, also hold British Citizenship, and they, too, will have to make a choice of either renouncing their British Citizenship, or choosing to effectively be Canadian, with a majority of time resident in Canada.

People like Yaramaz, and others, who have basically severed their links with Canada, would face a major dilemma and headache.

Ghost, McGill University, East Asian Languages.
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poor Yaramaz.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do deceased persons of an ectoplasmic kind still need to have citizenship?
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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont have dual citizenship. If they kick me out I will be passport siz. How interesting. Limbo sounds fun.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And I havent severed ties to Canada- I still have bank accounts, a drivers license, investments, family, friends, etc there.

Ghost, dear fellow, stop using me as an example in so many of your arguments when half the time you are wrong about my situation. Clarify, dear man, clarify!
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you transferred the funds from your pound account to a Canadian dollar account then?
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scot47



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where is the ectoplasmic EFLer ?
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ghost



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:40 pm    Post subject: shhhhh! Reply with quote

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And I havent severed ties to Canada- I still have bank accounts, a drivers license, investments, family, friends, etc there.


Shhhh....Taxman prowling, .........shhhhhh.......


Ghost, McGill, East Asian Languages
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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolling Eyes Am non resident for tax purposes. Rev Canada knows and they don't care about my money here.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:29 pm    Post subject: reply Reply with quote

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Am non resident for tax purposes. Rev Canada knows and they don't care about my money here.


Non residents don't normally maintain the types of things you have maintained in Canada (bank accounts, drivers licence etc.....), just be aware that Revenue Canada may have a different interpretation (compared with your own) of who a non resident actually is. One was told that to qualify as a 'non resident' of Canada, one had to basically break one's ties with the 'Great White North' - the fact that you still have substantial assets in Canada might raise a few questions on your return.

You just have to cover yourself.

Ghost.
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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last year my accountant went to ask the tax folk what kinds of Turkish forms I needed to hand in for my tax return and they told him none because I have been away so long they just declared me a non resident (without letting me know-- I had been wondering how to file when its almost impossible to get any real income statements in Turkey).
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