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fishjock
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 Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:26 pm Post subject: Multiple Entry Visas |
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Does anyone know anything about the validity of Multiple Exit and Re-entry visas?
I got mine a few months back and had assumed that as it says
"RETURN WITHIN 6 MONTHS OF FIRST DEPARTURE"
I would be allowed as many trips in/out during this time period as I liked. However, somebody has just told me that they "think" that these visas are only good for 3 exits/re-entries.
Anyone got any definite info on this? |
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Van Norden
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| You can use it as many times as you like within that 6 mth period. Have you used it yet? You need to "activate" it within 3 months of purchase I believe. |
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scot47
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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You must 'activate' it within 2 months of issue. Usually valid for 6 Hegira months ( NOT Gregorian) - or for the validity of your Iqama if that is a shorter period. Valid for any number of exits and re-entries.
And sometimes the information on the database of the Min of Int is wrong so be careful ! |
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Stephen Jones
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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Check how long before you need to activate it. They upped the period from two to three months.
Remember that you must have nine months left on your iqama (3+6)
You can use it every day if you want. |
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Cleopatra
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Above posters are right. You can use Multiple Exit visas as often or as infrequently as you wish. However, you must use a visa if it has been issued to you - this goes for single exit-reentry visas too. If you have been issued with a visa and fail to use it, you will be landed with a hefty fine - quite how hefty I'm not sure. I know it's ridiculous, since you have to pay for the honour of getting the visa in the first place, but that's the way it is.
Also worth reiterating that all visas - and your Iqama - go by the Hejira year, which is of course shorter than the Gregorian. |
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fishjock
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Cheers folks. That's put my mind at ease after the hearsay I was given this afternoon.
I've used the visa three times since the middle of June so it will be all right for my next exit in mid October.
Hefty fines for not using exit visas!!! What's the justification for that? |
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Abba
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| Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:56 am Post subject: |
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| fishjock wrote: |
| .... Hefty fines for not using exit visas!!! What's the justification for that? |
To get double income from the exit visa, the fist one when you pay the fees for issuing the visa, the second income for not using it. By this, they will oblige you to use it, so that you pay for the next one. BUT, there is an exit from this, if you are not going to use the exit visa, you have to cancel it before it expires, check this with you local immigration office!
Do you know that the income from issuing exit visas, iqama fees, etc, is probably, the third or the fourth income to the SA government after Petrol, telecommunications, and Hajj. |
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scot47
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| Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:33 am Post subject: |
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And represents a minute fraction of the income from oil. It is not about revenue - it is about controlling the migrant population.
The Saudis are stuck with a problem. Given the prosperity of this place and the location of the Two Holy Mosques, their country is a magnet for people from all over the Muslim world.
Incidentally why is the Muslim world so poor ? Apart from the states around the Gulf ? |
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Abba
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| Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| scot47 wrote: |
| ......Incidentally why is the Muslim world so poor ? Apart from the states around the Gulf ? |
Most of the Muslim countries, especially the Arab ones are not poor, the wealth is there, but because of the corruption of the political leaders, bureaucracy, and the mis-magemnet of the wealth which has lead to the critical situation in these Arab countries.
Take for example a country like Libya, which has all the wealth of petrol, gaz, minerals, agriculture, etc, it could have been better than KSA. Unfortunately, is not the case, becasue Colonel Gaddafi, has wasted all the wealth of the country on supporting gerillas in Africa, Asia, latin America, all over the wrold, and some of the wealth are put in secret accounts in Swiss, and also to support his propaganda for Arab Unity, which did not succeeed, and now he is making the same mistake, trying to unify Africa which has more than 10000 different tribes and races !!. This is why most of the Arab countries are poor. Look at Malysia, whih is a Muslim country, and does not have petrol like SA, but has technology and managed to organize ist economy better than the gulf states. |
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Cleopatra
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| Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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Why is the "Muslim world' poor? Ooh er, that's a contentious question you've stumbled on, Scot! There have been quite a few 'studies' about this done over the last few years, some of them being, shall we say, rather more politically motivated than others.
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| And represents a minute fraction of the income from oil. It is not about revenue - it is about controlling the migrant population. |
I agree. Given that KSA earns many millions from oil a day, the 250 rials they get per exit visa, even if multiplied many thousands of times over, is peanuts in comparison. Especially when you remember that the vast majority of expats in KSA are too poor to be able to travel more than once a year, if that. It is indeed all about control.
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| now he is making the same mistake, trying to unify Africa which has more than 10000 different tribes and races !!. |
You're way behind hte times. Qadaffi gave up on the pan-African thing many years ago. His latest craze is being an esteemed visitor in democracy-loving "Western" nations where he is hailed as a 'statesman.' Not my words, but those of Jack Straw, former British Foreign Secretary. |
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Abba
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| Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Cleopatra wrote: |
| .....His latest craze is being an esteemed visitor in democracy-loving "Western" nations where he is hailed as a 'statesman.' Not my words, but those of Jack Straw, former British Foreign Secretary. |
This is another double-standard position from the West towards the Arab countries, by giving attention to Kaddafi as a "stateman", and ignoring his past where he was labeled by the same West as one of the devils, or may be "axis of devil" in the 80s and 90s. And now they are supporting him so that he spend rest of his life humulating his people for more poverty and mis-management. So, I think, the West is contributing to the suffering of people in most of the Arab countries. |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Abba wrote: |
| So, I think, the West is contributing to the suffering of people in most of the Arab countries. |
I don't think that there is anyone here who would disagree with that. But one problem is that too much time is spent blaming everything on the 'west' and not fixing the problems that come from themselves.
VS |
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Cleopatra
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| Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| This is another double-standard position from the West towards the Arab countries, by giving attention to Kaddafi as a "stateman", and ignoring his past where he was labeled by the same West as one of the devils, or may be "axis of devil" in the 80s and 90s. |
This of course is true. However, could not the same thing be said about Qadafi himself, who spent much of his 'career' talking about the evils of the "West" and arming the IRA while they were fighting against the country he now sees as an ally, and to which he is happy to give lucrative oil contracts? |
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Abba
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| Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:06 am Post subject: |
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| .... the same thing be said about Qadafi himself, who spent much of his 'career' talking about the evils of the "West" and arming the IRA while they were fighting against the country he now sees as an ally, and to which he is happy to give lucrative oil contracts? |
Yes, because he learned the lesson from his Big Brother in Iraq, and he is a well trained to change his principles (if he has any), so that not to loose his seat (empire). By the way, do you know that he is fancy of women body guards !!!! |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Abba wrote: |
| By the way, do you know that he is fancy of women body guards !!!! |
One of the things he is most famous for!! 
VS |
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