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Bayden



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Switching to another job Reply with quote

englishgibson wrote:
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It's clear now why EG's so bitter.
bitter? Shocked
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if you can't get ahead, EG, don't begrudge those that have the chance.
I wished him a good luck as you have Smile ... would you like to troll further? Laughing

Cheers and beers Very Happy

I tend to scan the longer posts and in scanning your last post I picked up this.
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We are here in China to honor our contracts and teach those Chinese that know little about the concept of contracts.

And missed this.
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Good luck to ya on your "dream job"

Sorry.
But I did pick up some negative vibes from your post.
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We are here in China to honor our contracts and teach those Chinese that know little about the concept of contracts. How would you really feel if that "dream job" was offered to ya and after signing your "dream contract" the employer would cancel it in a few based on having found someone else there?

He'd feel bad, of course. As his employers may well feel when he tells them 'I'm off, smell ya later' But thems the breaks. Why even mention something that goes without saying. Are you a roger in training?
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englishgibson



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:01 pm    Post subject: Switching to another job Reply with quote

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But I did pick up some negative vibes from your post.
well...maybe you should keep that vibe rators away when you are reading those forums Laughing

And I am off to the shower with my lovely Chinese girl Smile
Cheers and beers Very Happy
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cj750



Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are you a roger in training?


Talking bout EG.....that is funny....but his post do resemble that old dodger...who's ghostly "figure", after being "kicked to the curb, still haunts this forem
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Steppenwolf



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

koba wrote:
englishgibson,

I can fully understand how that would sound as if I was looking for approval from people here.

I just asked what the process is.

"

I already mentioned "thanks in advance" for all the help in my original post. What do you want me to do?

"you have an anger management problem"

I came in here asking a simple question. Someone accused me of trying to cheat the system, of being unloyal...yaddy yaddy yadda.



What I can't stand are these touchy feely moralists that believe if all of us just do our little part then we can create shiny little rainbows and spread sunshine for everyone.



"Nevertheless, I wish you good luck!"

Pfft, eat it loser boy! I'm not done with you yet!

To the rest of the supportive people here, I'd like to thank you for the advice.

Cheers or Gam Bai and have a great holiday.


Hmm, you "don't need approval" from anyone but you do appreciate all the advice and suggestions from folks who condemn your employer of two years without knowing why you condemn him?
The least I can say is that you are a psychologically interesting person!

And you merley "asked for the process" to follow, and you have been given your dues - and you are still complaining? Why? Are you a whiner?

And you had the magnanimity of "thanking in advance" - and you still wonder whether you should do more?
Who says you should do anything for recieivng opinions and answers to your "simple" (was it really that simple???)? No one said a thing about what you should give this community! We humoured you and you failed to humour us. What should WE do to get your "thanks"? Probably pay for your lawyer you might need in China?

And you fail to udnerstand your "anger management problem"? Gee - see a trained specialist - they will certainly agree with me! NOt with you, of course, but that is to be expected!

I don't get your last comment about "touchy-feely moralists". If you heard some comments about moral angles to your problem you heard what you deserved; no one is condemning you. You didn't tell us why you wanted to quit so badly - you wanted us to believe you had a "once in a lifetime chance" of furthering your "career" in China of all places - get my HEARTFELT CONGRATULATIONS AND DO THE RIGHT THING ABOUT IT, if you are MAN enough to do it!
BUt your situation sounded so simple it didn't really need "advice" from us, did it?
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cj750



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speak of the devil....out like a ghost of the past comes the moralizing

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What should WE do to get your "thanks"?


another guy with a mouse in his pocket...."We" as in me ..don't need thanks or self aggrandizing moments to show superiority...

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"you have an anger management problem"


and yet the mouse is also a therapist... all knowing in mouse emotions and problems associated with "cheese" envy....

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Why? Are you a whiner


This is a better question for that old codger named Roger...
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koba



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EG,

I believe I already apologized if I wasn't clear in my orginal post. This really is a no brainer, what someone does with their life is their business. If it's not common knowledge by now then I really don't know what to tell ya. I think a lot of other people here got what I was saying.

If the job decides to cut me short then that's life. I still fail to see what this has to do with anyone here. If I quit this job, does that mean you or the gimp will lose yours? I understand that you lost a teacher but if you can't expect everything in life to go your way. If you don't want it to ever happen to you then I suggest a change in some other field.


Steppendork,

"Hmm, you "don't need approval" from anyone but you do appreciate all the advice and suggestions from folks who condemn your employer of two years without knowing why you condemn him?"

Still reading from the gospel according to Steppen are ya? I guess it doesn't have all the answers. Where did anyone on this board condemn my employer. Even in my original post, I never mentioned any mistreatment from them. It wasn't till another poster mentioned that if I had a legit beef with my school then it would be ok break the contract. I explained that I did have problems with the school but those weren't of any real concern and the issue at hand was what the process of leaving was. Check the title of the post, gimp. It doesn't say, "FT has problem with his school wants to know if it's ok to leave". But then, you didn't read that far did you?

"No one said a thing about what you should give this community!"

You told me to do everyone a favor by sticking with the school contract. What's the deal now?

"you failed to humour us"

Who is this "us" you're talking about? From what I've read people have been trashing you more than me. Get a life, get a clue!

"they will certainly agree with me! NOt with you, of course, but that is to be expected!"

If you want to start a fight, see to it to the end. If you don't have the balls then STFU! What exactly am I supposed to do? Sit there while you spit poison at me? Not where I'm from. YOU'RE the one that likes to start sh*t so expect to get back what you give and quit whining that someone is actually fighting back. YOU'RE that decided to step into this so accept the fact that you're going to get that same poison thrown right back at you. These "anger management problems" are so friggan weak. That's so high school and a sign that you really can't come up with solid arguements.

"no one is condeming you"

Oh, really? So, what I read from you're post is that you're just trying to be nice to me, is it? Look here, retard. I don't need someone to hit me over the head with a hammer before I realize they have a problem with me. Still trying to paint yourself as an angel and back down? Pfft, wimp!

"you wanted us to believe you had a "once in a lifetime chance" of furthering your "career" in China of all places"

That's right, you know everything about me and my intentions just from reading 2 or 3 posts. You're a bigger idiot than I thought. Again, where's the proof that I wanted your approval, retard? You sound like a broken record saying the same crap over again thinking it'll stick. Sigh...so naive.

"BUt your situation sounded so simple it didn't really need "advice" from us, did it?"

You don't know crap about this place. Anyone who's been here for any reasonable amount of time will know that things are never as simple as it seems. Yet, I'm sure you're going to tell me you already knew that, aren't ya, gimp?
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7969



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

koba wrote:
7969,

"in your original post you said you're currently (stuck) on a one year contract that ends next summer, which would seem to indicate you've only been on the job for a month. then this: "

How was I trying to mislead? If you don't understand then I'm at fault for misleading?

I've been in China at the same school for TWO years. I came here on a full years contract. Then I signed for another year. For those who are having trouble following, that makes it TWO years After I finished those contracts I signed for another year, of which I just started. Yes, I have a 1 year contract that expires next summer. Yes, I've been here for 2 years.

GET IT OUT OF YOUR HEAD THAT I'M SOME NOOB WHO CAME HERE A MONTH AGO! Nowhere in my first post did I say that. How on earth did you get that from my first post? Where did I "suggest" this?

koba, come on, when someone says "I'm stuck at this job in Tianjin with a 1 year contract that ends next summer." and no other details, and the term has just begun, and that poster only has seven posts, its fair enough to assume they just got here.

if you had said what you said above (about being here for two years already), in the original post, some posters here might have had more helpful things to say to you. as it is, just going by your original post and the one subsequent to it, you didnt make it easy to figure out your situation. thats not our fault.... so apology accepted Very Happy and good luck whatever you end up doing.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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koba, come on, when someone says "I'm stuck at this job in Tianjin with a 1 year contract that ends next summer." and no other details, and the term has just begun, and that poster only has seven posts, its fair enough to assume they just got here.


True..the posters on this board love to leap into hyperbele!
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englishgibson



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:26 am    Post subject: Switching to another job Reply with quote

And you are one of those hyper... ones, aren'cha? Laughing
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Talking bout EG...
Laughing and ya lovin'it Laughing


7969, I totally agree with ya on that above post there.


Peace to all
and
cheers and beers to the hard working FTs in China Very Happy (opportunists inclusive Wink )
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KES



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just explain the situation to your employer, turn in your resignation, stating your desire for a mutually satisfactory resolution, then work out the best deal you can.

If you've been with them over two years, you probably already have a decent relationship; once they realize you are serious, they should play ball.

The easier you make it for them, the better off you'll be - helping find a replacement, as others have suggested, would really go a long way.

Sure, employers are disappointed when an employee leaves for a better opportunity, but that is a far cry from doing a midnight run. As long as you are forthright and do your utmost to mitigate the employer's loss, it should be O.K.

Good Luck.
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