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[luckyloser700]

[canuck]

[furiousmilksheikali]

[BrytSyde]

People, People... cant we just chill and have some good dialogue... i had asked a question in which most have been kind enough to respond back with some great answers.. i do thank you all for the help... if you have any advice for me to better prepare myself for japan in the months before i apply i would really help me...thanks yall...and be easy

[Glenski]

BrytSyde,
You asked only a few questions, and pretty general ones. If you want to stimulate more responses, I suggest you ask more questions, preferably specific ones. Many of here are glad to help, but we need a starting point.

[guest of Japan]

Managers make a lot more than some of you think. Back when I did eikaiwa my manager made more than 5,000,000 a year and was not yet at the top of the pay scale for his position.

Assistant managers usually do make less than the foreign teachers, but career advancement tends to come quickly.

The Japanese English teachers at my school really did get shafted in comparison to foreign teachers, and that includes the head teacher. One could get up in arms over this, but many of the Japanese English teachers I worked with have made career changes and are doing quite well now.

[ironopolis]

BrytSyde,
To be honest with you, my advice would be to take what you read on the internet with a pinch of salt. This is perhaps one of the better forums, but, as you can see, you get lots of childishness and patronising reponses on here too.

As was mentioned earlier, there are indeed whole internet sites about some of the chain schools you were asking about, but they are nearly always produced by people with a bitter axe to grind and devoid of much objectivity. I recall one such site a couple of years ago, which used juvenile four letter nicknames when referring to any of the managers they were having a go at and in one senior teacher's case, came up with quite a bit of offensive, personal stuff about the guy's wife, who had nothing to do with the company involved!

The MacDonalds comparison has been rightly ridiculed, although I suspect the poster who made it was thinking as much of how some patronising types view the chain schools and people who work at them as of the salaries they pay. You'll encounter that a lot, but don't let it worry you.
It IS actually a fair point that the chain schools pay even less generous salaries now than they used to, but that's pretty much the same across the board of entry level jobs in Japan. You're probably not going to save a fortune here that you couldn't save elsewhere, but perhaps that won't matter too much if your main motivation is to experience a bit of Japan rather than save a packet.

Anyway, good luck.

[BrytSyde]

Wad up Everybody

GlenSki, i will do by best in future to have more detailed questions, everything so new to me, its all a learning experience

ironopolis, Thank you for your feeback i am started to see the diffrence prespectives of living and working in japan..

for me and im not sure if anybody else feels this way, goign to japan is not about money what so ever, i could hang back in the states and start a job making 3 times as much, but as was mentioned, i want to experience japan, but even more than that i want to get lost, and whn i say that i mean get lost in a place thats so diffrent than what i know as normal, that i will have to find myself, find my strengths, to basiclly survive, and at the same time experience a culture as bueatifull as the japanese cultutre..

could you guys tell some good sites to more reserch and reading.. i have been to like gaijinpot.com.. any other suggestions would help..thanks guys

[seastarr]

geez, this kind of turned into a touchy topic. I agree with you Brytsyde, if you are going short term, dont go for the money. I came home with enough to get an apartment and hold me over for a month while i found a job at home. I also came home with some amazing memories and the knowledge that I had seen most of the places that I came to Japan to see. The people who went for a year to make money really didn't seem to have much fun on a chain school salary. Those who went for the experience may have left broke, but there are more important things sometimes. If you have any specific questions, let me know.

[luckyloser700]

[BrytSyde]

Hey everybody..

does anybody have any suggestions on learning Japaneses, my class doesnt start till january, so i wanted to like buy one of those CD's in your car lesson kinda of things...any body have any luck with those?

[pk_yang22]

[luckyloser700]

[bornslippy1981]

[ghoul]

The real losers are people who call other people losers because their job is lower than what other people want financially. So you are an ambitious wanna be billionaire? You can still be an ahole.

Its your life, if you enjoy hanging in Japan at a conversation school so be it.