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Does Interac still have cash-flow problems?
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greatteacherterry



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

canuck,
We could talk to this guy until we were blue in the face and still not understand what he wants or needs.
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canuck



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you guys have an update on the situation? You guys fighting a winning battle or a losing one?

There are areas in Osaka now where NOVA has won the contract to supply teachers to some junior high schools. I know a guy that works through the NOVA program. He teaches and gets his Saturday and Sunday days off. Come the summer, he's back in the NOVA branch dreading it.

The funny thing is, NOVA is probably the "best" dispatching company out there. And I use the word best very loosely.
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king kakipi



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

G.T.T. wrote:-
Quote:
One of the (Japanese) English teachers from another school also
attended.
The two schools are going to merge. I jumped on this
opportunity to ask for his support by giving me his signature
on our petition...
His answer was...
YES... I WILL GLADLY SIGN THIS...!!!
I'M HAPPY THE SOMEONE IS TAKING THIS STEP....!



GTT, you lucky bus tired, How come you get to work with Japanese English Teachers who can actually speak the lingo so well.

I can only offer you:-
all my bestest wishes in your fighting against the Interac
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greatteacherterry



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:11 am    Post subject: Up-Date Reply with quote

Our last meeting with the BoE and LC.
The BoE has this to offer us now.

1) The BoE will give us PFTs info about the' Hijyo kin koshi' (special lecturer -direct hire) in the case that the Principals need teachers.

(this is NOT a job offer! It is just information about the program...)

2) The BoE will notify our Union reps when the outsourcing co is interviewing.

(They have not stopped interviewing. What the BoE is offering is that they will introduce us to the outsourcing co. Again this is no job offer from them... same old story)

Our response:

1) We will discuss this with the all of the PFTs.
2) We cannot accept, this is the same offer as before.




The BoE has asked the LC to continue of the hearing stage of the LC for 2-3 more times. For some reason or another the BoE does not want to go to the next stage of negotiations with us under unfair labor practices. The next stage would be. The 'witness stage'. We would be able to summon witnesses to come to the hearings. It is getting more like court now.


The LC requesting us and the Union to negotiate 'special lecturers� with the BoE. Therefore, in the case we reach agreement the BoE wants us to withdraw our complaint in the LC about unfair labor treatment. Our response to them was that we are ready to negotiate but we cannot withdraw the complaint.


It seems that the BoE does want to solve the problem by hiring us as 'Hijyo kin koshi' ( direct hire -special lecturers).
The BoE is eager to find a solution.

Next LC - 11/10 5*30 PM FRIDAY
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bornslippy1981



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

canuck wrote:


There are areas in Osaka now where NOVA has won the contract to supply teachers to some junior high schools. I know a guy that works through the NOVA program. He teaches and gets his Saturday and Sunday days off. Come the summer, he's back in the NOVA branch dreading it.

The funny thing is, NOVA is probably the "best" dispatching company out there. And I use the word best very loosely.


Nova has been doing the dispatching for awhile. Last year I knew some people who left in August and moved elsewhere for the positions.

The money was the same as branch instructors, but there were no late shift or Sunday allowances.

They did get a bonus of 1000 Yen/day, which was paid at the end of the contract.

It didn't seem like too bad of a deal. They paid for your moving costs, and you got out of the branch. However, some people only work 2 or 3 days as an ALT, and then go to a Nova branch. One of those days, you might be finished by noon, and have to go work a few lessons at a nearby branch.

One girl I knew stopped the ALT work after a month because she was getting harassed by the students. She got put back in a branch. Essentially she got her transfer much sooner, and her moving costs paid, but had to go through the abuse of the students.
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greatteacherterry



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, there are times when students in public school can be a bit on the rough side. And I have encountered my share at the junior high schools. But the elementary school children are so cute... I'd like to just take most of them home with me at the end of the day.
There was one day when a young junior high boy said in Japanese that he wanted to kill the (woman) teacher. I overheard him and asked what he said. He denied saying anything. But I told him that I had heard what he said and I just wanted to make sure I wasn't making a mistake. Then, another student spoke up and said that he said the same thing about me but I didn't hear him. So I escorted him to the principal's office by his ear! I knocked on the Principal's door and walked in dragging the boy in by his ear. I told the principal that maybe the boy could explain what he said to make me so angry. And went back to class.
About two hours later the principal and the boy came into the teachers room and the boy apologized to the Japanese teacher and then to me. After that I never had any problems with him or any other students at that particular school.
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yamanote senbei



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Up-Date Reply with quote

greatteacherterry wrote:
It seems that the BoE does want to solve the problem by hiring us as 'Hijyo kin koshi' ( direct hire -special lecturers).


That's what the Ministry of Education recommends. Hire JETs, hire special lecturers directly, or receive teachers from legal dispatch company (not Interac). Doing it through JET is the best way because all the interviews, etc. are taken care by the Foreign Ministry and CLAIR.
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greatteacherterry



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if CLAIR is the best way to go either... I work with a JET that is from a South American Country. He isn't a native English speaker; in fact the Spanish teacher told me that his Spanish is a bit on the strange side too. This guy knew that he would never be hired as a JET from his home country. Therefore, he moved to Canada, got a Canadian passport and entered the program as a Canadian. He snuck in through the back door.

On another topic... There was an ALT (from Interac) busted for marijuana by the Yokosuka police last night. This guy got into a fight with a sailor and the two were hauled into the base security office. The sailor was turned over to his command and the ALT was turned over to Yokosuka police for possession of marijuana.
This doesn't help the Interacian's image....
Good for us anti-Interacian movement.... Bad for the Interacians...
he.... he.... he....
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

greatteacherterry wrote:
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There was one day when a young junior high boy said in Japanese that he wanted to kill the (woman) teacher. I overheard him and asked what he said. He denied saying anything. But I told him that I had heard what he said and I just wanted to make sure I wasn't making a mistake. Then, another student spoke up and said that he said the same thing about me but I didn't hear him. So I escorted him to the principal's office by his ear! I knocked on the Principal's door and walked in dragging the boy in by his ear.

Weren't you reprimanded for physically abusing the kid? I didn't think you could touch students in that way.

As for your comparison of those JET and Interac teachers, they are just anecdotes. I'm sure that among the 80 people that your BOE dropped, there are some that are not angels and that have skeletons in your closet. I don't mean to belittle your cause, terry, but anecdotes don't prove your case either. Good luck.
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6810



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

greatteacherterry wrote:
I don't know if CLAIR is the best way to go either... I work with a JET that is from a South American Country. He isn't a native English speaker; in fact the Spanish teacher told me that his Spanish is a bit on the strange side too. This guy knew that he would never be hired as a JET from his home country. Therefore, he moved to Canada, got a Canadian passport and entered the program as a Canadian. He snuck in through the back door.


1. Central and South American Spanish ARE different to Euro Spanish. Duh. The "His SPanish is strange" rot is just colonial superiority complex... What a wanker.

2. Hmmm, taking out citizenship in a second country in order to be a JET in Japan... first hand facts? WTF? That seems like a massive pain in the &ss just to be a teacher in Japan... sigh
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Venti



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

greatteacherterry wrote:
I don't know if CLAIR is the best way to go either... I work with a JET that is from a South American Country. He isn't a native English speaker; in fact the Spanish teacher told me that his Spanish is a bit on the strange side too. This guy knew that he would never be hired as a JET from his home country. Therefore, he moved to Canada, got a Canadian passport and entered the program as a Canadian. He snuck in through the back door.

On another topic... There was an ALT (from Interac) busted for marijuana by the Yokosuka police last night. This guy got into a fight with a sailor and the two were hauled into the base security office. The sailor was turned over to his command and the ALT was turned over to Yokosuka police for possession of marijuana.
This doesn't help the Interacian's image....
Good for us anti-Interacian movement.... Bad for the Interacians...
he.... he.... he....


You'll be filling out the Interac application before next March, and you know it. I recommend getting started right away. Wink
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greatteacherterry



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First
Glenski I'm not trying to prove anything to anyone especially not you.

Second
The Spanish teacher who said the JET's Spanish was strange is from Mexico.

Third
I'll never sign a contract with Interac. I'll never become an Interacian.

Fourth
No I wasn't reprimanded for physical abusing the boy and if you really must know the rest of the story his parents thanked me because he did a complete turn around at school after it happened. I'm still in contact with him and his parents. He is a student the dental school in Yokosuka. And studies English with me every Wednesday. You have some nerve second-guessing and passing self-judgment on everything real people post on these boards. You should get off of your pedestal and think a little more, remember Glenski the world is not flat. Nor does the world revolve around you or your beliefs.

Great Teacher Terry
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

terry,
I'm shocked and disappointed in your explosion of a response. I asked if you were reprimanded. Period. Why the unnecessarily violent reply?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Contrary to how Glenski seems to feel, GTT, I think you should've been given a medal by your BOE (before they got rid of you) for braving what sounds like a school fraught with danger.

Me, I'd completely panic if I were to ever hear a death threat against me, and would probably want to pick up the nearest heavy object to make an improvised weapon for "dispatching" the psycho student (better to be "judged by twelve than carried by six" is what I say! I'd also make sure to tell any questioning officer later that 'I sincerely believe I used what I consider to be reasonable and fully justified force - I was fearing for my life!'. Apparently it works like a charm every time when getting charges of GBH, murder and the like dismissed).

Anyway, who knows what that little punk would've turned out like had you not leapt into action (and some might feel that you could've been even more tough on him; here's to hoping that your restraining yourself from doing a complete Tyson on his lughole won't result in him becoming a Japanese John Christie or something).
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

furiousmilksheikali wrote:
I think it is possible to misinterpret or overreact to something we overhear just as a non-native speaker of English could misinterpret or overreact to such things as:


great teacher terry wrote:
But the elementary school children are so cute... I'd like to just take most of them home with me at the end of the day.


I wonder actually how many non-natives would read much into that, considering that giving things a serious interpretation is often the flip side of a humorous one (and how many non-natives pick up on things even humorously).
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