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kyz



Joined: 10 Oct 2006
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Location: New Zealand

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:20 am    Post subject: newbie wanting to teach english in Istanbul Reply with quote

Sorry All you probably have this question over and over again..

I have no degree I am going to do a TEFL course, a on line one which is 60 hours and the 20 hours class room training so 80 hours in total. Is this going to be enough to be able to look for work in Istanbul. I have done some english teaching to young (under 10) children in Italy for 8 months so I have a little teaching expereince. Am I going to have trouble finding work with only a TEFL cert and little expereince. i.e. Is there alot of people looking for english teaching work?

Also am I better to arrive and look for work rather than call / email schools from here in New Zealand.

Please help thank you

Kyz Confused
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molly farquharson



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

with no degree you are going to have a hard time finding a job. The TEFL cert courses should not accept people with no degrees and most schools will not hire them. You will be relegated to the smaller language schools and you are unlikely to get on at a kids' school. Sorry, but that's how it is.
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With no degree you will get a job easily but it will be an hourly paid job with no holidays, no work permit and you will be at the mercy of the school owner. You will have to come here and go round the schools knocking on doors.
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kyz



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thrifty or anyone

can you suggest some schools that will employ TEFl holders only??
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scot47



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My advice is to go and get a degree.

Feel free to throw a wobbly and call me a horrid old man full of bourgeois ideas.
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kyz



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no not at all your advise is difentely helpful.. thank you..
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Baba Alex



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kyz wrote:
thrifty or anyone

can you suggest some schools that will employ TEFl holders only??


I know that English Time has employed people who don't have degrees before.
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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thrifty



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No degree required but gullibility is a a requirement.
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kyz



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all for your feed back! I am going to write to a few schools and see what they say also. I don't want to come to Turkey un prepared and finding that I can't get work.. cheers all
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just jazz your CV up by putting down a degree from the University of WongWonga or wherever. Hey presto you have a job. Use Pagemaker or one of its ilk and adward yourself your degree. When you arrive bring your degree and TEFL cert and nobody will care. Add a quote in Latin and a royal looking crest and you are a winner.
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kyz



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thrifty.. beleive me that thought has crossed my mind.. thanks cheers
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have gone right up in my estimation.

Don't feel bad about it because you will learn the hard way that TEFL is a rat eat rat dog eat dog game. Honesty is most definitely not the best policy.
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kyz



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i have travelled for many years around the world working and earning a living in many different jobs and yes honesty sometimes is not the best policy..as long as you can apply yourself that is what matters..
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:54 pm    Post subject: Comment on this repost please Reply with quote

Is Turkey TEFLing getting a bad name or is this just a cynical con:

TEFL-Prague wrote:
Hello Kyz.

A degree is not usually required if you plan on teaching in Turkey.

If you require any further info on teaching in Turkey then the Turkey section of this forum has some excellent posts.

You can also feel free to email me and I will provide you with objective feedback (we have had a number of grads who have headed down to Turkey).

All the best!
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