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JPS



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:16 am    Post subject: Specialist in Humanities Visa Questions Reply with quote

Specialist in Humanities Visa

I have done some research, but there are a few things I would like to ask you all that I haven�t been able to find. My situation:

To let you know from the outset, I didn�t finish uni, don�t have my degree, and am not going to be in a position to do so for at least a few years. I taught English in Australia for 17 months from September 2002 to January 2004. I then taught in Japan from March 2004 to July 2005, which leaves me just 2 months short of the 3 years required for a Specialist in Humanities visa.

Since moving to London in September 2005, I have been doing admin work, as the pay here for a teacher is lousy and as much as I love teaching, the prospects are not that great for someone in Australia, where I am from and will eventually settle.

My contract at my current job runs out in June next year and ideally, I would like to complete it, after which my (Japanese) girlfriend and I would like to go back to Japan for a few years before we settle in Australia, and this is where I need your advice/experience.
My main questions are:

1. From anyone�s experience, is the Japanese Embassy likely to grant an SHV to someone 2 months below the 3 years experience? If not (which I realise is most likely), my plan is to find a teaching position in London next June and once I have the necessary 2 months, apply for the visa. But I am unsure how the Embassy would view the two-year gap. Any thoughts?

2. The Embassy website says I need a Certificate of Eligibilty, which must be obtained by a sponsor in Japan. However, it is not clear whether it is necessary for the sponsor to be an employer. Is it possible for my girlfriend, who is going back to Japan in December for a year, to act as my sponsor?

3. Does the visa restrict me to teaching work? While a long shot, a lot of this is based on the possibility of getting a non-teaching job at an acquaintance�s company and I want to know the full visa situation before I speak further with him. Basically, I want to know what options would be available to me.

That�s about it (for now). While this is all a year away, I really want to have some idea of what is available to me. While I really want to go back to Japan for a few years, I realise that I have no guarantee of a visa, and another few years of teaching would cause problems for me when I get back to Australia. Thanks.
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furiousmilksheikali



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:28 am    Post subject: Re: Specialist in Humanities Visa Questions Reply with quote

JPS wrote:
2. The Embassy website says I need a Certificate of Eligibilty, which must be obtained by a sponsor in Japan. However, it is not clear whether it is necessary for the sponsor to be an employer. Is it possible for my girlfriend, who is going back to Japan in December for a year, to act as my sponsor?



I believe that your sponsor should be your employer. It is possible to self-sponsor but you have to prove you have enough work to support yourself. This will be very difficult to do outside of Japan.

You say that you have taught in Japan for a year already so I assume that you have already used your Working Holiday Visa. This is available to those who haven't completed a University degree.

Another possibilty is to get a Cultural Visa, although this is technically available only to those who are studying... "Academic or artistic activities that provide no income, activities for the purpose of pursuing specific studies on Japanese culture or arts, or activities for the purpose of learning and acquiring skills in Japanese culture or arts under the guidance of experts (for example, ikebana, tea ceremony, judo, etc.)."

Theoretically you won't be able to work on this type of visa (or at least not full-time).

These are the types of visa available.

http://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/visa/04.html
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marry your GF and come on a spouse visa.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Self-sponsorship, as I understand it, is renewal of a current work visa without the need for a single employer. The OP is not in Japan as far as I can tell, so this doesn't apply.

I would guess (GUESS, mind you) that immigration would be sticklers for those missing 2 months, so get the experience soon. By the way, were the months teaching English in Australia full-time hours? I think all you have to do is prove the total of 3 years, whether they were done consecutively or not. You know bureaucrats. It's case by case.

1. Just to pick nits, I don't think embassies issue visas. It is the Ministry of Justice, through immigration offices.

2. Get off embassy sites and go to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs site for more accurate visa information. http://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/visa/index.html
You need a COE, which is issued by immigration, and your sponsor must be your employer, unless your girlfriend happens to run her own business with 5 or more employees.

3. Yes, the visa restricts you to work. What sort of non-teaching position were you thinking of? Read the MOFA web page for qualifications for the various types of work visas, but I think you'll probably find that you'll need even more than 3 years for most non-teaching jobs if you don't have a degree.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
3. Yes, the visa restricts you to work.


Glenski, I hope you don't mind me picking some nits of my own but did you mean it restricts you to teaching rather than work. It seems to me that there are other kinds of work available to do on the Specialist in Humanities Visa but that they also require 3 years experience in that related field.

However, to play devil's advocate, once you have the SHV is it possible to change your employment to another field that the SHV allows? It would seem that most employers are interested in the visa itself which would, in theory, allow you to legally work in another field covered by the SHV.
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JPS



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks very much for all this. As I said, nothing is definite as yet, just a lot of ideas which have been playing on my mind for a while.

Question 2 re:Sponsor � Thanks Furiousmilk� . Had figured that it would need to be the employer. The Embassy website had listed employers and spouses as those needing to lodge the Cert of Eligibility and while I figured the spouse would just be for a spousal visa, wanted to check anyway. And yes, I did use the WHV last time. I like the idea of studying on a student visa, but at this stage of my life I feel I need to work full time.

Kdynamic � thought about it, but these are not the circumstances I want to marry in.

Glenski � Yes, Australia and Japan teaching were full time. I really don�t expect to be let off the 2 months, but I am still a little apprehensive about the two year gap.

What I meant by Question 3 is: Assume I work the extra 2 months to get the SHV. Am I then bound to the same employer, or am I free to find other work as I please once I am in Japan? (Note - This is not what I intend to do, but I just want to get a better understanding of this).

The possible position is an office job with a company manufacturing products which they have just started exporting overseas. I don�t have experience in this area, but due to my background and skills, the company president has expressed that he may be willing to employ me in the future. As a result, I would be looking to get the visa from my teaching experience, and then work in this role, which is completely unrelated to teaching. Would the authorities check up on this?

Thanks again.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JPS wrote:
What I meant by Question 3 is: Assume I work the extra 2 months to get the SHV. Am I then bound to the same employer, or am I free to find other work as I please once I am in Japan? (Note - This is not what I intend to do, but I just want to get a better understanding of this).



No, you are not bound to the same employer. You may legally work for anyone else providing that the work you do is permitted by your visa.

According to the Ministry of Justice website these forms of employment are acceptable:

"Activities to engage in service that requires knowledge pertinent to jurisprudence, economics, sociology, or other human science fields. Activities to engage in service that requires specific ways of thought or sensitivity based on experience with foreign culture, such as interpreting, translation, copywriting, fashion design, interior design, sales, overseas business, information processing, international finance, design, or public relations and advertising based on a contract with a public or private organization in Japan.
Applicants must fulfill certain conditions concerning personal history and work status."

I can't say for certain whether you will be eligible for the work that you have in mind particularly as you will have obtained the visa through having three years teaching experience. But I can't see why you couldn't use your visa for work unrelated to teaching given that the visa itself entitles you to the above employment.

That is why I asked Glenski for clarification on this.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have a job lined up with a company, why not get them to sponsor your visa?

Once you have a visa, it is yours to keep for as long as it's valid even if you change jobs (within the fields your visa restricts you to). The SHIS visa is pretty much the broadest one and lets you work a wide range of jobs.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kdynamic wrote:
If you have a job lined up with a company, why not get them to sponsor your visa?



I don't think it would be as simple as that given that the company JPS wants to work for is not related to teaching and JPS will only be eligible for the SHV on the grounds of experience in a related field.

Besides JPS may not yet have the required experience.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason I asked earlier about someone other than the company sponsoring the visa was that I would rather cause as little work for the company as possible, so if I could save them the hassle of going through the necessary visa process, I would prefer it. But if this is not the case, so be it. But what Furiousmilk.. says about the company not being related to English teaching is valid as well. Would it be possible for them to sponsor me as their in-house English teacher?

As far as the office job goes, no, I don't have the experience that would satisfy visa requirements. This is why I asked if getting the visa through my teaching experience restricted me to teaching once in Japan, even if an employer wanted to employ me in a different area.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JPS wrote:
Would it be possible for them to sponsor me as their in-house English teacher?



An interesting idea that I hadn't thought of. It may be possible but I don't know for sure.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

furiousmilksheikali wrote:
JPS wrote:
Would it be possible for them to sponsor me as their in-house English teacher?



An interesting idea that I hadn't thought of. It may be possible but I don't know for sure.


Entirely possible and many companies do it. However, you still run into the problem of the experience requirement for the visa to be issued.

You can, if you're still inside the age requirements, always apply for another WHV, start work, rack up the required time (for whatever visa type you want) with the company you're talking of and then change status once there with them sponsoring the change.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was under the impression that a WHV could only be issued once. Plus, I will be 31 next year, which also counts me out.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

furiousmilksheikali wrote:
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Glenski wrote:
3. Yes, the visa restricts you to work.


Glenski, I hope you don't mind me picking some nits of my own but did you mean it restricts you to teaching rather than work. It seems to me that there are other kinds of work available to do on the Specialist in Humanities Visa but that they also require 3 years experience in that related field.
My error. I meant to type "the visa restricts you to certain types of work." Sorry. Thanks for catching that.

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However, to play devil's advocate, once you have the SHV is it possible to change your employment to another field that the SHV allows? It would seem that most employers are interested in the visa itself which would, in theory, allow you to legally work in another field covered by the SHV.
Seems logical to me. Same visa requirements for a different job should not require any other changes to one's status. Of course, immigration may think otherwise when it's time for renewal of the visa, but that's a bureaucracy for ya. All case by case. The thing to look out for, of course, is whether the non-teaching employer thinks your non-teaching credentials are suitable for the job he has. All of this echoes what furiousmilksheikali wrote.

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The reason I asked earlier about someone other than the company sponsoring the visa was that I would rather cause as little work for the company as possible, so if I could save them the hassle of going through the necessary visa process
The visa process for a sponsor (employer) is minimal. He provides certain standard tax records and your contract, etc. No payments. No complicated paperwork. Don't sweat his end of the deal.

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I was under the impression that a WHV could only be issued once. Plus, I will be 31 next year, which also counts me out.
True on both counts. However, depending on when you get the WHV and when your birthday is, you might be able to renew the WHV. It is good for 2 six-month stints, but they must be taken consecutively.
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yamanote senbei



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no visa and there is no sponsor. You guys have got the terminology all wrong. It's called a status of residence. Some allow you to work and others don't. You can only work in a broad field allowed by your status of residence unless you obtain special permission.

There is no space for a sponsor anywhere on the application.

As for visa self-sponsorship, there's no such thing and never was such a thing. You can fill out the extension of period of stay application yourself, there's no need for a sponsor.
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