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syntax51
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 14 Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin USA
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:20 pm Post subject: English First |
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What's it like to work for them in Russia? |
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rusmeister
Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 867 Location: Russia
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:17 am Post subject: |
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See my comments in the general discussion forum.
I'm sure they pay more than $6/hr now. Maybe $12, maybe $15. If it doesn't amount to a couple of thousand $ in cash a month, it's not going to be enough to live decently in Moscow, although I suppose you can eke out an existence at $1500, and less, of course, if you don't have to pay for your room/apartment. |
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maruss
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 1145 Location: Cyprus
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:30 am Post subject: |
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E.F. L.L. AND B.K.C??
NO, NO, NO!!! |
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BELS
Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 402 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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Then who? British Council perhaps? |
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rusmeister
Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 867 Location: Russia
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:56 am Post subject: |
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How about for yourself? |
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englishgibson
Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 4345
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:50 am Post subject: |
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Dear Milwaukee brewed,
Once, in a position of an EF Director of Studies and on behalf of one EF center in China, I called the EF Moscow for a reference on one EF applicant. The EF Moscow's reply was; "Nepanimaju" (I don't understand) Further, I tried and expanded our phone conversation with my broken Russian, but got a rather hostile reception from them.
The point is that BE AWARE what you wish for. Having worked for this organization might not give you what you are hoping for. If you work at one McEF center, others might not know or will not know.
Having worked at one McEF center, there were a few "unregistered" teachers and that due to attempts to cheat the franchise off its royalty fees...might not apply to Russia, since they "manage it their own way".
Good luck to your McEF search
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cheers and beers as well as vodkas to Russian mobs
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maruss
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 1145 Location: Cyprus
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:04 am Post subject: Who?? |
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A glance at the vacancies in tefl.com will reveal several other schools in Moscow who are currently recruiting,apart from the notorious three I already warned people about, such as I.P.T. run by an English guy who seems to at least offer a reasonable starting salary and even firms such as Inlingua and Denis pay a decent hourly rate!By the way, I forgot to warn people again about Oxford Crown who are definitely on the no-no list!Anyone wanting to know why can e-mail me for details of my personal experiences there(and those of several other ex-employees of theirs!)
I'm sure BELS knows what I'm talking about and I hope his school is doing well because he put in a lot of effort to get it up and running etc. |
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englishgibson
Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 4345
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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Maruss, keep comin' and stay on track with yor "warnings" on this one
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I'm sure BELS knows what I'm talking about |
I'm sure everyone on here knows wha'cha talkin' about
Peace to the EF in Russia
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cheers and beers to comin' winter
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South China's just sooo sunny these days
I still keep showin' my sexy legs off on those streets |
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maruss
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 1145 Location: Cyprus
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:50 am Post subject: |
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Incidentally,I also taught some EF teenage summer study school groups here in Cyprus for a few weeks back in July and it took several weeks,as well as a phone call to the Netherlands for them to send me my money!
Not that it was exactly a small fortune either, but the principle still applies-I did more than what they asked so they should have paid on time! |
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englishgibson
Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 4345
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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Incidentally,I also taught some EF teenage summer study school groups here in Cyprus |
really ... what was that you taught there ... rather helpful info for this thread
cheers and beers ohh and vodkas  |
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maruss
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 1145 Location: Cyprus
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Well they all thought they were on holiday,we were trying to teach them english,it was around 32 celsius with unreliable air-conditioning and most of them were either drinking or scr****** each other all night, so you can imagine that we all had a 'wonderful' and very educational time!!Especially with a mixture of French,Italians,Finns, Swiss and a few Russians........... |
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englishgibson
Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 4345
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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:49 am Post subject: |
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Hello again Marussia,
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most of them were either drinking or scr****** each other all night, so you can imagine that we all had a 'wonderful' and very educational time |
yes, i can imagine, but why don't you do the same now
And, have a vodka
Cheers, beers and vodkas to Marussia
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maruss
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 1145 Location: Cyprus
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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Just try finding anyone who wants to pay for english lessons here in Cyprus,apart from the local kids who already go to private institutes anyway and these are run exclusively by Cypriots who never employ foreigners, even native speakers of English! |
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coledavis
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 1838
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject: books |
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The EF teachers I've had contact with say that they are obliged to use books written by (or on behalf of) EF and that neither they nor their students are particularly impressed by said books. |
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rusmeister
Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 867 Location: Russia
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:31 am Post subject: Re: books |
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coledavis wrote: |
The EF teachers I've had contact with say that they are obliged to use books written by (or on behalf of) EF and that neither they nor their students are particularly impressed by said books. |
Of course! Makes more money for the franchise.
Public school districts do the same thing. They 'approve' textbooks from a specific publisher and make it hard for you to use anything else. (If you put in an order for books it goes through smooth as oil, as long as you are ordering the 'approved' books. |
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