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gigisehr



Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:16 pm    Post subject: Working in Tokyo.... Reply with quote

Hi everyone. I was wondering if any of you could help me out with this dilemma.....

I'm moving to Tokyo with my fiance in December. For various complicated legal reasons, if we get married I won't be able to work, so that is not an option for getting a visa. So, I've been trying to make contact with some schools who would sponsor my visa....

The thing is, I'm kind of limited in what kind of jobs I can accept. I already have housing set up in Tokyo through my boyfriend's job, so I need to work somewhere I can commute to from there. I understand this would be easiest with one of the big four, but.....My boyfriend will be working normal business hours, so I would prefer not to work on the weekends or too late at night. I was working evenings up til now, and even with no commute time (15min walk) it still sucked to have basically the opposite schedule.

I've made contact with some other schools that can sponsor visas, but they all seem to be in Kanagawa, Chiba or Saitama. Being an ALT seems like the best option, but I'm not sure I would be very competitive in this field since I haven't worked in Japan before (although I do have experience teaching kids).

So....should I take a job outside of Japan if they sponsor my visa, even if I have to commute an hour and work evenings? Or should I just wait til I get to Tokyo? Or should I take the job for the visa and then just ditch the company? Wouldn't that look bad when I'm looking for a new job? (Sorry if this sounds a bit desperate Embarassed)

I understand I have to be flexible, of course. Luckily I won't have to worry too much about set up costs since my boyfriends job takes care of most of it, and I have some savings. But obviously I can't just expect to show up in Japan and get my dream job.....

FYI, I have a B.A., TEFL cert. and some teaching experience.

Thanks!
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Venti



Joined: 19 Oct 2006
Posts: 171
Location: Kanto, Japan

PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's nothing wrong with interviewing with companies that recruit in your area/country. GEOS, AEON, NOVA, and ECC all hire from outside Japan. Explain your situation at the interviews and see if you can't be accomodated. There's a good chance you can be placed within one hour of Tokyo if you apply at the right time.

Get the ball rolling now; the hiring and visa processes take some time.

Good luck.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 12844
Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm moving to Tokyo with my fiance in December. For various complicated legal reasons, if we get married I won't be able to work, so that is not an option for getting a visa. So, I've been trying to make contact with some schools who would sponsor my visa....
Pardon me for asking, but would you mind explaining what prevents you from working? If your husband is Japanese, you can get a spouse visa and work at practically any job FT or PT. If your husband is not Japanese, you can get a dependent visa, and with special permission to work on that visa, even though it's only PT. (You could always supplement your income with private work of some sort, too.)

Being "competitive" as an ALT is not necessary. The many dispatch agencies tend to hire anyone it seems who fit the visa requirements. The thing I would watch out for, instead, is the reputability of such agencies. They have gotten lots of bad press in the last year or two.

Since you have the qualifications to get a regular work visa, you have the options of finding work before you come, or coming and then looking for a job. Without knowing the "legal reasons" why you can't get a spouse or dependent visa, all I can say is this. If you want a job to sponsor you before you get here, you are going to be very limited in the number of places that offer such sponsorship. Maybe a dozen. If you come here, you will have the comfort of a home already provided to serve as your base of operations, and you can see a much larger opportunity and get used to the environment and make contacts. I will assume that living off your husband's paycheck and living together with him are acceptable, so that seems to be the better option.
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kdynamic



Joined: 05 Nov 2005
Posts: 562
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you should come here and then look for a job, because you already have a place to stay. You can be here 90 days as a tourist. That should be more then enough time, and let you compare your options and find the right job for you.
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emypie



Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 37
Location: Riding the TEFL wave across the globe

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd be surprised how lenient some schools can be with visas. I have a friend who came here while her visa was being processed and worked her first month at an eikaiwa on a tourist visa. I am sure if you come here you could easily find a teaching job and then get the visa sorted out.
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yamanote senbei



Joined: 28 Jun 2005
Posts: 435

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

emypie wrote:
I have a friend who came here while her visa was being processed and worked her first month at an eikaiwa on a tourist visa. I am sure if you come here you could easily find a teaching job and then get the visa sorted out.


Coming here as a tourist, finding a job and working while your "visa" is being processed is not something I would suggest anyone doing. The few employers remaining who allow you to work illegally have been known to screw employees out of there last pay, when the visa application is rejected, if the application is actually made or not. The last pay may not be taken directly, but removed through a mess of fines, deposits and charges. The employee is left with the threat of being turned in for working illegally by the company if they try to collect their last pay. It's an empty threat because punishments for employers hiring illegal workers have gone up in recent years, but it's the illegal worker who's going to be hurting the most.

The company president isn't going to be deported, it's you.
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TokyoLiz



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Posts: 1548
Location: Tokyo, Japan

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best bet is to try both avenues suggested to you - try to get hired in country by an eikaiwa, some of which can offer you part time/day positions, or just come here with all your documents on a tourist visa for 90 days and figure out what you need to do.

Taking a job, working on a tourist visa is ill advised. I'm with Yamanote sembei on that one - it's really dangerous for you.
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