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Taking a TEFL course in Mexico

 
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doreenp



Joined: 13 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 12:45 am    Post subject: Taking a TEFL course in Mexico Reply with quote

I am interested in getting my TEFL certificate in Mexico. I have searched the internet and the three main ones seem to be Via Lingua, ITTO and the Vancouver Language centre. I am open to travelling to any part of Mexico and hope to stay there and get a job. Has anyone attended these or any other schools? I would appreciate any input regarding any schools or if it's better to stay in Canada and travel down after going thru the course up here.
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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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Location: The Mexican Hinterland

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the questions you should ask the program is for specifics about who the instructors are, and what their background and experience is. I know a guy who was a "teacher trainer" at the Vancouver Language Centre in Guadalajara. He had a certificate and two years experience and was fine as an EFL teacher, but when I found out he had been teacher other teachers, my first opinion was yikes! Shocked

If I had paid for a course and found out that the teacher was barely more qualified than I would be at the end of the course I'd want my money back. Unless of course I'd paid like ten dollars for the course.

If I ever recieve an application from a Vancouver graduate, I don't think I'd hire them unless they had five years proven experience post course.

The courses in Canada surely cost more as the over head and everything is higher, but if you want to get your money's worth, you might want to choose a place with quality trainers.
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doreenp



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, I would love to find a school that has 'quality' teachers. that's why i'm asking if anyone has taken the TEFL course at any of the schools in Mexico and what information they could pass on to me about them. I have emailed the schools asking for the teachers credentials and all i get is a general "all of our teachers are experienced and well trained".....

I was thinking that if i was trained in Mexico, that the school would give me better job leads too, but after hearing some past ITTO students, that doesn't seem to be the case.

I would love to hear from anyone about any school any where in Mexico,

thanks
Dee
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dduck



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Location: In the middle

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Dee,

If you go to Mexico with no experience, you should expect to work very hard, and receive very little pay for your efforts. Qualifications aren't that important for the majority of entry level schools - a little teaching experience would be more valuable.

There are some teachers on the board that migrated to Mexico after spending many years in the US education system. They didn't have too much trouble find some good University jobs that pay, by Mexican standards, very well.

I worked in Mexico for a few months, but it didn't have enough cultural hold to balance out the very poor wages, poor teacher resources, poor support, and dismal quality of life. (BTW, I adored my students.) However, that's just my experience of the place, as a non-American. You may find a good school, but I anticipate you'll have to knock on a few doors 'til you find one you like.

Iain
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Ben Round de Bloc



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There are some teachers on the board that migrated to Mexico after spending many years in the US education system. They didn't have too much trouble find some good University jobs that pay, by Mexican standards, very well.

- dduck


I think a lot depends on where in Mexico a person is willing to locate in order to make that statement true. In some university systems it's very hard for foreigners to get hired even with qualifications, credentials, and experience. Mainly, that's because many university adminstrators want teachers who plan to stay around for a long time, and they don't see foreigners in that category.

As for pay, there's not a wide margin between good university jobs and good jobs in reputable language schools in many places. In this city a number of language schools pay more per hour than the state university pays. As I see it, the main advantages of working at a university are the extra benefits, job security to some degree, and an academic environment, things missing in many language schools.
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doreenp



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the thoughts, i guess i should clarify myself and my expectations. . I'm not coming to Mexico with any intentions of getting rich or even making more than a living. As long as i can work and enjoy my work and make enough to live on , I'll be happy. I've travelled many places in my life and have chosen Central America as the place i'd like to spend the next few years.

We all have to start somewhere to gain experience and i'm sure there will be a place for me. I'm interested in settling in (when i find the right place) and learning the culture more deeply and i do believe that my life's experiences should make a difference. Hopefully.

Fortunately I'll be able to take my time and yes, knock on a lot of doors. My tourist time in Mexico was mainly spent on the Pacific coast and the Yucatan area. I'd like to see more of the interior and the Yucatan , we'll see how I feel when I get there. I have heard of people with less experience and no TEFL degree, that have landed 'decent' jobs. I'm sure that we all have a different idea of what 'decent' is.

By the way, I'm 48 and have two fabulous daughters 23, and 20 who are dying for me to move to Mexico so they can visit me (funny how you have to move away so they'll come see you???) one is a teacher in Ontario, who takes students to Europe and Great Britain to get their gr 11 and 12 credits, and one lives on Vancouver island near me. So we're a travelling kindof family and are very used to communicating via the internet . Gotta love this life !!

They think i'm going into my second childhood.............i don't remember ever leaving the first ! Wink

thanks for all the comments
Dee
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Samantha



Joined: 25 Oct 2003
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Location: Mexican Riviera

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Dee,
Just writing to wish you good luck. You will love it and don't worry about the age thing. I have found that while age is not that important here, female teachers definitely get preference and in some schools here, it is the law that you have to be female if you are to work with children.

I was certified while still living in Canada, with the Canadian Global Tesol folks (while the price was still reasonable - not so any more) It was a quick but very useful course for me as it provided me with the credential to work legally in Mexico. One piece of advice from me would be to come with lots of money in the bank as a cushion, because depending what you are able to find, pay is generally low and you will need money to tide you over until you can re-adjust your spending habits. I find things just as costly here as in Canada in many instances.
I went from a great job in Canada making between $25.00 and $30.00 an hour - to a teach English job here that paid me 48 pesos an hour. A bit of a shock. I wouldn't trade it for anything. How did I do it? I went out and got two more jobs at which I worked simultaneously. Yes, if you want to teach in Mexico and have money to make ends meet - be prepared for anything and everything as a possibility. Now that I am established, I can pick and choose my assignments. For instance I am currently tutoring a lawyer who pays me 100 pesos an hour. That won't happen in the beginning. It was a referral. It takes time to become established on your own. Bring money! Suert�. Cool
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TexGirl



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 7:21 pm    Post subject: "Lots of money" Reply with quote

I am curious to know how much money would be a decent amount to have in the bank before embarking on a teaching career in Mexico. How much is enough to tide one over until experience is gained and contacts are made?

Thanks,
TG
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some waygug-in



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