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is this really enough money?
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marrsy



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, my little post about money seems to have gone to the birds... Laughing
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vikdk



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a bustard (family: Otididae).
personally I blame that poster who attempted to out someone he thought was a non-native speaker of English - kind of brings to mind family: Paridae (and as a Brit I'm not referring to the American term chickadee) Laughing


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The Voice Of Reason



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wow, my little post about money seems to have gone to the birds...


Yeah, it has deviated away from chicken feed Wink
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Malsol



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

5,000 rmb is enough to live on if you are in the Hinterland. But as Prof says, Dalian, Shanghai, Beijing, etc. you will live like a serf.

Now about your priorities:

Teach and Travel? Frankly speaKING, CHINA ALREADY HAS ENOUGH BACKPACKERS.
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yamahuh



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="BaydenJust noticed this.
it seems no one has asked the obvious question.
(drum roll please)
What was a mallard doing in your pyjamas?[/quote]

Dammit you beat me to it, I was just scrolling through all the bull sheet to see if anybody else had asked the obvious question..
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TravellingAround



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Malsol wrote:
5,000 rmb is enough to live on if you are in the Hinterland. But as Prof says, Dalian, Shanghai, Beijing, etc. you will live like a serf.

Now about your priorities:

Teach and Travel? Frankly speaKING, CHINA ALREADY HAS ENOUGH BACKPACKERS.


Surely the priorities of other people are their business? Besides, who really wants to move to another country and not even explore it a bit?
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prof



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is NOT enough money.

Ask for the private email and phone numbers of those who said it is...so you can break their head when you find out how deceptive they are!
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jammish



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know why people have this obsession with backpackers in China. In my experience most FTs in China don't actually travel all that much, other than to go to say, Shanghai for a long weekend, say.
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yamahuh



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

prof wrote:
It is NOT enough money.


It most certainly CAN be enough money. It all depends on the cost of living in your location, the amount of partying you enjoy, the amount of comfort items / western items you need to make yourself happy and the amount you want to travel or save.
Saying that it isn't enough to live on is pure idiocy when the national average Chinese wage is about 40% of that figure. My wife and I made 8,500 RMB per month between us when we first arrived in China; we partied a couple of times per week, ate out most days, travelled during every holiday and on most weekends and managed to save $10,000 Cdn in one year.
I guess that's not enough for Prof though.
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Steppenwolf



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

prof wrote:
It is NOT enough money.



It most definitely is enough - who comes here with money reserves in their pockets? I hear some FTs arrive penniless and have to be saved from their own stupidity by a local employer - and many do get saved!
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vikdk



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It most definitely is enough - who comes here with money reserves in their pockets? I hear some FTs arrive penniless and have to be saved from their own stupidity by a local employer - and many do get saved!

we should be grateful for payments many of us consider a low wage - because of the economic incompetence of some of our fellow FT's Question
I must say that kind of logic puts the positive spin over low China wages - to its ultimate test Laughing
And that is regardless of whether you think the wage is enough or not Exclamation
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No Moss



Joined: 15 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I set a minimum amount that I will work for. I seem to keep busy.

As some wag once said, if you're working forty hours a week, you're not charging enough.
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NathanRahl



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, that does seem to be the case. However most coming over here, myself included, just don't have the experience or contacts to find the best paying jobs right off the bat. 40 hours a week here is alot, I personally would not work more then 20.

If your charging the right amount, and getting it, you can do vry very well working that many hours. Like I said though, takes some time, and or a lot of research an question asking to really find out al you ned to know, and newbies who come here are afraid to ask enough questions. I wonder why Rolling Eyes
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