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Deicide
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 Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:29 am Post subject: Want to get started learning Cyrillic... |
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| Anyone have good links? Sure, sites abound but many do not offer the Roman equivalent or even better IPA (International Phonetic Alphabet). If anyone has links to sites that have the Russian letters with Roman and/or IPA equivalents, I would greatly appreciate you posting them...cheers, D |
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rusmeister
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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I've got an alphabet chart I designed to teach basics of Russian in a 10-minute demonstration and a few worksheets to immediately apply the knowledge.
Here's a link:
http://www.linguarus.com/program/text.htm
(but my chart is better and simplifies things - would have to e-mail it, I guess) |
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Kent F. Kruhoeffer
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Deicide
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| Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Kent, as always your intervention is greatly appreciated...  |
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Kent F. Kruhoeffer
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| Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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пожалуйста !  Now you have 5 words to learn.  |
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Deicide
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| Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Kent F. Kruhoeffer wrote: |
| пожалуйста ! Now you have 5 words to learn. |
Ehmm...give me some time and I will get all five of them...promise!  |
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Sgt Killjoy
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Cyrillic is kind of fun to play around with students in a game. It is fairly easy to write and the kids get to use their brains. |
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IvanGrozny
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Many years ago when I started to learn Russian I was afraid of cyrillic. In truth it was very easy to learn and by far the simplest part of learning the Russian language. The 6 dollar Oxford English/Russian dictionary has a transliteration guide in the very back and it serves quite well. Russian is largely pronounced as written, but not always, so this makes it easier. I would suggest making some Russian friends on messaging programs like ICQ, Skype, or MSN Messenger. When I started it was a great way to make friends there and to get help with my Russian. Unfortunately since that time the jerks that cruise Russian babes on these have made many less than anxious to strike up a relation with a westerner, no ofense to those non-jerks who cruise babes. A good way around this is to post a personal on ICQ and let them contact you, put Russian in your profile so you appear on there search engine. Having friends there is a real plus when you are there, especially when you have to deal with Russian buerocracy. My furthur advice, depending on what your goals are with the language, is to just forget Russian grammar in the begining and focus on speaking and reading the language. Russian grammar is very complex, although it shares some similarities with grammatical structures in the romance languages I would say it is more complex, much more. I knew I had cyrillic down when I was going down the escalator in the Metro and nearing the bottom I always began to look for the station listings to know if I go right or left, this time I found that I was seeing whole names instead of having to sound them out phoenetically in my head. Good luck with Russian, it is a very beautiful and remarkably fluid language. |
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IvanGrozny
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh, and to answer your question from another post. Yes, Russia is a very good place to learn Russian. And actually a better place than other CIS countries where the language may have been taught in school and was spoken universally, but was not the native tongue. I sometimes have a lot of trouble speaking with people from some of the former Soviet Republics, but little difficulty with most Russians. |
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ghost
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:50 pm Post subject: How long does it take to learn |
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Thanks for the input about Russian and cyrillic alphabet.
How long does it take to learn Russian conversation to a decent elementary level?.....for the average (motivated) learner?
When ghost lived in Taiwan (2005-06) it took about 4-6 months to really be able to get by in 'basic conversation' in Mandarin.....and that was with studying an average of 2 hours a day, either in class or alone. Ghost concentrated on Mandarin conversation, rather than learning the Chinese characters, because learning the characters in Chinese - takes years and years of constant practice.....and ghost decided that the time would be better spent learning conversation and communicating with the Taiwanese.
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Brooks
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Russian is easier than Chinese except when it comes to grammar. There are 6 cases. |
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rusmeister
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:17 pm Post subject: Re: How long does it take to learn |
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| ghost wrote: |
Thanks for the input about Russian and cyrillic alphabet.
How long does it take to learn Russian conversation to a decent elementary level?.....for the average (motivated) learner?
When ghost lived in Taiwan (2005-06) it took about 4-6 months to really be able to get by in 'basic conversation' in Mandarin.....and that was with studying an average of 2 hours a day, either in class or alone. Ghost concentrated on Mandarin conversation, rather than learning the Chinese characters, because learning the characters in Chinese - takes years and years of constant practice.....and ghost decided that the time would be better spent learning conversation and communicating with the Taiwanese.
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I did a traditional Russian course - "Russian for Everybody" by Russky Yazyk publishers - in one year and at the end I was actually accepted (out od desperation) as an interpreter for some cops on a police exchange program from Moscow. 5 hrs in class a week, plus 5-8 hrs homework, + talking in Russian to any Russian I could get ahold of. I was motivated. Mastery took 5 years. |
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cheekygal
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| Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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you might as well want to take a look at www.word2word.com. But if you are in Russia, Deicide, hire a teacher. Someone is an English teacher on his/her own by profession or a linguist. It won't be expensive and you'll be able to learn much more. By the way, swearings would probably the easiest words and expressions for you to learn: for some reason they have easier sound combinations and are reproduced clearer than any other words  |
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