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Getting a living wage in UK or Ireland
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JRCash



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:27 pm    Post subject: Getting a living wage in UK or Ireland Reply with quote

I am shortly embarking on a CELTA course and will be entering the jobs market shortly.

I understand that it is harder to find work in the UK or Ireland as a EFL teacher. However, is it feasible to get just part-time work and do private classes on the side (all year round) as I'm not sure of the possibility of getting full-time work all year?
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scot47



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Difficult to earn enough to stay alive that way !
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TheLongWayHome



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get the CELTA and leave. Living just below the poverty line in the UK is not fun, unless you're going to teach EFL as a hobby.
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SueH



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

... or as an addition to a pension.Smile
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TheLongWayHome



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SueH wrote:
... or as an addition to a pension.Smile

Laughing ... an extremely generous pension...
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lolwhites



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could always take your weekly wages to the bookies, or try the national lottery.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you want to live and work in a society that produced Sutcliffe and Shipman ?
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BELS



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Getting a living wage in UK or Ireland Reply with quote

JRCash wrote:
I am shortly embarking on a CELTA course and will be entering the jobs market shortly.

I understand that it is harder to find work in the UK or Ireland as a EFL teacher. However, is it feasible to get just part-time work and do private classes on the side (all year round) as I'm not sure of the possibility of getting full-time work all year?


Where do you come from? that is important. my wife and I do private group classes full time. It takes time but you should know what you are doing. One to one classes are useless because the student are naive and have no mathematical thoughts to the comparison with a group of 12 for example, and as to what they should pay as an individual.
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JRCash



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Getting a living wage in UK or Ireland Reply with quote

BELS wrote:
JRCash wrote:
I am shortly embarking on a CELTA course and will be entering the jobs market shortly.

I understand that it is harder to find work in the UK or Ireland as a EFL teacher. However, is it feasible to get just part-time work and do private classes on the side (all year round) as I'm not sure of the possibility of getting full-time work all year?


Where do you come from? that is important. my wife and I do private group classes full time. It takes time but you should know what you are doing. One to one classes are useless because the student are naive and have no mathematical thoughts to the comparison with a group of 12 for example, and as to what they should pay as an individual.


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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might still be a better option than Rockall.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you SURE that you want to take the vows of poverty required of all EFL professionals ?
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Afra



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are doing private lessons, make sure you are always paid one lesson in advance. That way, you lose nothing if the student (or students) doesn't turn up, which wasn't uncommon in my experience.
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JRCash



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Do you want to live and work in a society that produced Sutcliffe and Shipman ?


What a stupid remark! All countries have the misfortune to produce evil people.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The disturbing thing about the Shipman case is that it revealed a total 'anomie' in Central England. He murdered upwards of 200 elderly people and no one noticed.

What sort of society is that ?

The same sort of society that teaches its members that it is okay to call a stranger STUPID !

I hope you enjoy the poverty of EFLing in Ukania.
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SueH



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People did notice something was wrong, but it was so far from normal in our society that they couldn't conceive it could actually be true.

The poster didn't call you stupid Scot, they called the remark stupid. I won't say more than that. Only that I'm glad such a cynical negative person who I have rarely seen make a positive post on here is not in the UK, as I don't think you'd improve the situation that you are so willing to comment upon.
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