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Any well-paid jobs in China?
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Cathy OB



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:47 am    Post subject: Any well-paid jobs in China? Reply with quote

Does anyone know of any well paid jobs in China? I'm not really keen on working for $500 to $1000 per month.

I realize that's a high salary for China, but at the same time I'm looking to save some money, not just pay my way to travel around the country.

I have heard a couple of distant rumours of higher paid teaching jobs, but I haven't found any myself. Can anyone help?

Thanks
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TravellingAround



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you qualified to teach in your own country's schools?

If so...check the international schools...the largest concentration seems to be around Shanghai or, to a lesser extent, Beijing. There are others in large cities such as Guangzhou. Search for international schools from your own country offering an Australian curriculum. They often pay western-style salaries but with far lower living costs so people can do pretty well out of them.

If not...go to a large city and network.
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Cathy OB



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I should have been more specific.

No, I'm not qualified to teach. I've seen jobs for qualified teachers advertised, and I can see that they would do well out of them. I'm not eligible to apply for these jobs.

Also, I'm not all that keen on flying to China without a job and a work visa already lined up. It seems fairly expensive and risky to me, even in a big city. Do you know of anyone who has had success with this approach?

Thanks for your help. Very Happy
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Itsme



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just show up.
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prof



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Australians generally don't get the high paid jobs here.

Why?

Begin with the accent. Then go with the conventional wisdom of Aussie 'work' habits. Then close with the lack of 'face' hiring an Aussie for a high paid position.

Trolls will likely follow. But that's the harsh truth.
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TravellingAround



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cathy OB wrote:

Also, I'm not all that keen on flying to China without a job and a work visa already lined up. It seems fairly expensive and risky to me, even in a big city. Do you know of anyone who has had success with this approach?


Thousands. Then again...many have no doubt also found it tough.

You'll find it difficult to find a job paying more than $1000USD just by sitting behind your computer. You have to go and root out the jobs when there. If you are willing to work hard and do part-time work as well then pay can be good in China.

Once knew a Kiwi in passing in Shenzhen who was doing very well. Being flexible helped...he didn't mind being flexible when teaching and taught kindergarten (do you say kindergarten or nursery in Oz?) in the morning and at a secondary school in the afternoon. Add in a few spots of personal tutoring and he was taking home 20,000RMB a month some months - way, way over the $1000USD you mentioned. Mind you, Shenzen pays better than almost everywhere else.

Didn't actually run into that many Antipodean teachers while I was there - the majority tended to be the usual US/UK with a sprinkling of maple-syrup munchers. Those I did meet seemed to be doing just fine in China so don't be dispirited.

I'd suggest trying to find a job in a major city that doesn't have so many hours as then at least you won't have to fly in with nothing if that worries you. It may not be that much but by doing part-time work you should see your money increase.
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Steppenwolf



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:31 am    Post subject: Re: Any well-paid jobs in China? Reply with quote

Cathy OB wrote:
Does anyone know of any well paid jobs in China? I'm not really keen on working for $500 to $1000 per month.

Thanks


I don't know what kind of "money" that symbol represents but the local currency here in China is called "yuan", and what youget paid here is from maybe 3000 to 30'000 a month.

3000 can be a "good" salary if you are realistic or modest enough to live as everybody else does; 30'000 is so high youhave to share it with the state by way of paying tax, and if youdon't, your employer does. To qualify for such well-paying jobs you have to be someone well-sought after.

Your initial post didn't mention "teaching" assignments specifically so I can tell you that if you have OTHER qualifications (you let on further down this thread that you are not qualified as a teacher) you can easily make western-level incomes - provided you fill a vacancy for which no suitable local applicant can be recruited. I know German and French designers and architects, Italian textile specialists, chefs from a number of different countries including Asian ones, Indian software developers/designers, Australian wine merchants, British consultants...
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sojourner



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prof,

Have you ever been to Australia ?

If not, have you ever met any Australians ?

If "no" to the above two questions, then please enlighten us as to what you regard as the peculiarities of both the "Australian accent" and "Australian work habits".

When discussing the "Australian accent", which one are you actually referring to ?

Undoubtedly, you have been influenced by media-created stereotypes of Australia and its people. I am often amazed as to why Aussies allow their cultural identity to be distorted by the (usually) American TV/film industry. Could you imagine spokespersons for, say, Jewish or African American groups remaining quiet for very long if a particular TV programme happen to portray Jews and Blacks as acting according to the sorts of (ethnic) images often portrayed in movies of the 30s and 40s, long before the advent of anti-racial and ethnic vilification legislation ? Likewise, with the portrayal of gays and lesbians on TV and the movies. Maybe, Aussies are so self-confident in how they see their national identity, that they are not easily offended by the opinions of others - but, who knows, that quality of "self-confidence", in itself, could be seen as a sort of stereotype ! Should a high degree of self-confidence actually be a trait of the Australian cultural identity, this would help ensure that they are in the running for the "high paid jobs" - but, on the other hand, it could also be regarded as a liability by employers in that it may well result in feelings of inadequacy or inferiority on the part of other expats !

You also said something about Chinese "loosing face" should they ever hire an Aussie for a "high paid position". Would you please enlighten us as to instances where Australians were not appointed to such postions merely on the grounds of their country of birth ?

Incidently, in your opinion what actually constitutes "high paid" positions ? Of course, I am referring to positions in the EFL sector, as well as in related educational fields. ( BTW, were you the person who initiated a thread a few weeks back on 250 RMB per hour jobs ? ).

It might interest you know that China has a very high regard for Australia - it is so high, that the visa fees for Aussies wanting to visit or work in the PRC are considerably lower than those charged for others. Maybe, it's because of the close economic ties between the two countries - but, again, it could be because the Chinese authorities appreciate the qualities that ordinary Australians possess; qualities that could enhance their contributions to China's educational development !

Regards,

Peter


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