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[ChinaAndrew]

ah yes, the gay couple, foreign run language school. I knew their previous foreign manager, now in guangzhou.They have had many unhappy employees that I met when I was in Changchun.

As others have mentioned they have your F.E.C they must have the 'lil red book' in order to have gotten your R.P.F that is yours, demand it at once.Secondly, you don't have to give them your passport, so don't.

They are required, by law(whatever that means) to give you a release letter.It needn't be a shining reccomendation letter of your outstanding work performance, just that you have fufilled your contractual obligations, which you have by provided them with the required notice.

I am a little confused by malsols statement you can't get a L visa changed to a F visa..but you can.

I worked for a school in Changchun that did just that for 5 FT's in the same day.

now dealing with this kind of matter, in the same province is tricky. Is your wife willing to go elsewhere? I dealt with this matter in another province, without a release letter.Like others have said:if your potential employer has more quan xi than them(which is more than likely as bai da wei is run by foreigners) then it could be sorted.

I do know of a school called 'sino denver foreign language school' that i worked breifly for.They have a lot of power, as mentioned above.However they do require most teachers to teach all ages. I'm with you there regarding teaching young kids, I bailed out for that very reason.

anyho, good luck to you.happy travels
andrew

[Malsol]

[tazmania]

From my experience converting an 'L' visa to a 'Z' visa is no longer possible in Jilin Province.

However, an 'L' visa can be converted to an 'F' visa no problem.

Instead of the FEC, you'll get a brown coloured 'Alien Work Permit' book issued from the labour bureau not the SAFEA.

Most schools in Changchun will hire you through this way as they don't have the correct licences from the local government to be able to hire foreign teachers 'legally'.
Only a very select few (mostly public universities and bandit recruiters) can actually get you the 'Z' visa and FEC.

[Malsol]

[cj750]

[vikdk]

after contributing to this thread - and pointing out that the poster WordUp seems to often post more in attempt to advertise his visa services than aid other posters - I get this PM from WordUp -

[tazmania]

[Malsol]

[cj750]

[cj750]

[Francois]

Wordy, that was lame - even for you.

[ChinaAndrew]

sorry I wasn't wearing my glasses. You stated an L visa cannot be converted to a Z visa in jilin province. Well why would they try? A Z visa is issued overseas accompanied by an invitation letter from your prospective employer(in china) allowing you to enter the country for the purpose of working as a teacher rather than a tourist.A L visa can, however, be changed to a R.P.F in jilin province.But since you are such an expert on these matters..you already know that.
by the way..how do you teach writing when you can't spell

[vikdk]

[Mister Al]

OP, walk away. Take your chances. This is the Peoples Republic, after all. And anyway, your employers don't seem worth a w**k. Do the 30 days and walk.
If you are as up front and ace in the classroom as you say, then you WILL find something that doesn't involve the wee ones, somewhere and within a short space of time. Someone will need you and what's so wrong about being up front and saying "I don't like teaching kids". The letters/recommendations are flannel. If they want you, they'll no doubt be able to hire you, legally. Good luck, whatever you do.

BTW, is that it then?...you lot of angry posters diggin' each other, as usual. Hope so.

It is, after all, the season to be jolly...falalalalalalalala

Ps. I was out tonight (for a change-wife and wee daughter and all that) and some bars were asking for RMB50 for a pint of Guinness. Am I in London? Gawd help us all and Merry Xmas.

[Malsol]