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lovelace
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| I don't understand why you're all getting your knickers in a twist. Why is hanim/bey so disrespectful, for instance? Englighten me please.. |
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Baba Alex
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| Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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When I have students, I insist they call me Baba Alex.
True story. |
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Sheikh Inal Ovar
Joined: 04 Dec 2005
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Location: Melo Drama School
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| Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sure they'd say anything to a man wearing a giant badger's head ...
At our place, they're all of a confusion and you will quite often hear Sir 'Inal' ... still anything is better than the snap snap of fingers .. |
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Baba Alex
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| Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Sheikh Inal Ovar wrote: |
| the snap snap of fingers .. |
I've kicked students to death for doing that.
True story. |
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Alexius
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| Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| I teach in an English language environment, therefore the term "hocam" (no matter how gratifying in other environments) is inappropriate. |
So do I - I accept the term because it is the one that the majority of students are comfortable using, and it happens to be untranslatable.
�ğretmen is translatable, and the translation is inappropriate in anything other than a primary school. So much for that.
Hocam allows students to express deference, which has its uses, you have to admit. It also, in my experience, has no impact on the class in terms of methodology; I permit it, and the class is otherwise entirely in English. The word is, after all, a vocative utterance, akin to a proper name; we would not consider banning any name not rooted in the Indo-European family of languages, so...
In the end, there are grounds to permit and grounds to exclude. Play on.  |
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