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Gordon
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| furiousmilksheikali wrote: |
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Thanks for that Glenski. Ended up not being able to pull myself off the tennis court and texted that I couldn't make it. Duh.
Tomorrow I am playing at a university that rejected me after an interview. In fact, played all day today at another university where I had an interview.
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My God! |
Are you trying not to find a job? |
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gaijinalways
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I'm still looking for these high paying jobs Glenski is talking about (they are out there, but usually that's when they are paying for eye candy).  |
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furiousmilksheikali
Joined: 31 Jul 2006
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Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Everytime I feel a pang of sympathy for you you blow it with a post like your last one. You constantly bleat about how horrible people are to you on this forum and implore people to feel sorry for you about your situation and yet when you could be out there looking for ways of putting food on the table you're on a tennis court sending desultory text messages to potential employers. WE are not to blame for your troubles. YOU, Sweetsee, are your own worst enemy. |
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VanKen
Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 8:58 pm Post subject: Hourly wages |
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| Sweetsee wrote: |
| Hey Ken, you need to read my question again, friend. |
I read your question. That's why I quoted it, so the context of my response would be clear.
Perhaps you want to rephrase the question so as to get the sympathetic response you seek. |
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Glenski
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:27 am Post subject: |
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| I'm still looking for these high paying jobs Glenski is talking about (they are out there, but usually that's when they are paying for eye candy). |
Never considered myself eye candy, just a fairly good businessman. Could be better, of course.
Look, it's not that hard to ask for more money. Too many people have no clue how to do business or what to ask. It's really sad to see people asking for 2000 yen/lesson. Want more? Deal for it. You can ask for X yen per head per lesson:
4000 yen per person,no matter how many people show up.
or you can use a sliding scale of fees, which makes it cheaper on the students:
4000 yen for a 1-person class
3000 yen for each student in a 2-person class
2500 yen for each student in a 3-person class
etc. (with a certain minimum, of course)
The above fees are applicable when the students themselves pay. Include transportation or not into these fees. If the COMPANY pays, then it's a whole different ballgame, and you should ask for a fee simply per class, no matter how big it is. If any company is unwilling to shell out a mere 5000 per lesson, plus transportation, it can't be a viable company, or it is VERY stingy. Even 5000 is low for a group! |
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taikibansei
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:19 am Post subject: |
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I keep pulling this post because I've been trying to follow my own advice, but really, an ALT with 10+ years experience who asks:
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| How does one get an ALT postion? How much does it pay? |
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who responds to a newbie's question about teaching certification equivalency with, "Yeah, that's close enough," when the reality is (as any long-term ALT would know) completely different? Who's posted to newbies that the cops here "are cool about drugs" and that "getting a work visa without a degree is easy"? Come on, guys, it's a troll trying to rattle your cages.
Now this guy, who pretended for several months to be a pregnant woman, is leading you all along on another merry runaround as he "struggles" to support his "family"? And you believe him?  I'll admit the tennis comment, especially trying to assign blame to this forum for it, was an act of brilliant trollship, but enough is enough.
Don't feed the trolls.  |
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Sweetsee
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:55 am Post subject: |
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Stop mistakenly quoting me out ouf context. I won't warn you again. And how did the tennis comment relate to the forum?
How do you know I was sending desultory messages Ali?
Yes/no question VanKen.
I got a kick out of the eye-candy comment!
Pity there aren't more Moot Points out there.
I texted the dispatcher that I am interested in attending an interview and doing lessons if the pay is negotiable. |
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furiousmilksheikali
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:12 am Post subject: |
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| How do you know I was sending desultory messages Ali? |
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Ended up not being able to pull myself off the tennis court and texted that I couldn't make it. Duh.
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| I texted the dispatcher that I am interested in attending an interview and doing lessons if the pay is negotiable. |
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des�ul�to�ry
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1. lacking in consistency, constancy, or visible order, disconnected; fitful: desultory conversation.
2. digressing from or unconnected with the main subject; random: a desultory remark.
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Having no set plan; haphazard or random.
Moving or jumping from one thing to another; disconnected: a desultory speech.
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Sweetsee
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:24 am Post subject: |
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| I scheduled an interview, I cancelled the interview. So what? |
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furiousmilksheikali
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:33 am Post subject: |
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| Sweetsee wrote: |
| I scheduled an interview, I cancelled the interview. So what? |
Yeah, I suppose you're right. What's a job compared to a tennis match? Anyway, making an appointment and then breaking one on the day you're due to have it is just what employers are looking for. |
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Sweetsee
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:52 am Post subject: |
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| A job? Read the OP. Answer or don't. |
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gaijinalways
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| IMO, 4000 yen an hour for a company class is peanuts. You should be making at least twice that much. |
Glenski posted
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| 4000 yen per person,no matter how many people show up. |
That's rare nowadays. Of course it's nice to make more, but in Tokyo you generally can't demand wages of 8k per class. If you're negotiating it yourself, you can try, but it's doubtful you'll get that initially, though possible on a later renewal. One skill that will enble you to demand more is if you are close to being fully bilingual; one of the teachers I used to work with, a Japanese- American, drew 10k/hr for private lessons at the same private women's medical college she taught regular classes at.
The eyecandy remark comes from teaching those corporate classes as some females were akin to hostesses; not paid for knowledge, more for just being there  . Then again, I often preferred a female teacher too  !
As to Sweetsee's tennis habits, hey the guy is just procrastinating. You (in the plural sense) have never done that? I think he really is in a job flux starting this April, something he is not used to as he noted he was in a fairly cushy job for some time.
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| Now this guy, who pretended for several months to be a pregnant woman, is leading you all along on another merry runaround as he "struggles" to support his "family"? |
As to trolling comments, yeah, he's not always the most consistent poster, but he does make life on this board interesting at times . As to the pretending part, I think 'misleading' would be a better label as his wife was the one who was pregnant then, not him. |
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Sweetsee
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| That's better. |
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furiousmilksheikali
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:23 am Post subject: Re: hourly wage |
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A dispatcher seeking a teacher for six one-hour kid's lessons offers 3500 an hour. Do you tell them 4000 plus transportation, or do you take 3500 and whatever transportation they are offering?
Thanks in advance,
s |
It looks like a job to me.
I would like to answer the OP but as usual it's vague and as usual it's been edited.
How much does transportation cost? How long does it take to get to this job?
These are two questions that Jim asked and you haven't answered.
If you are travelling half an hour each way to work and transportation costs 500 yen each way then you are talking about being paid 1250 yen an hour, which is pitiful. You did mention that the company would pay limited transportation costs but you don't know how much because you haven't called them to ask what they mean because you are too lazy and have your priorities screwed up. Instead you are either expecting people to make your decisions for you with completely inadequate information or you are, as taikibansei wrote, an annoying troll.
It really is up to you whether to take the job or not and it depends on how desperate you are.
gaijinalways: Of course I've procrastinated, but I would have thought the welfare of his family would concentrate his mind a little.
The "tennis court post" came almost straight after Sweetsee's claim that he was out there "busting his butt". This is not simply procrastination. It's insanity! |
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canuck
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I haven't posted about hesheit in this thread until now. Seems like furiousmilksheikali, Glenski and taikibansei have hit the major points already. I honestly was starting to feel a little sympathetic about hesheit's plight, but from hisherit's questions, reactions and remarks, hesheit must just be pulling people's legs.
Tennis anyone?
Enjoy,
c |
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