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Symphany
Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 117
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:44 am Post subject: Bullying in Japan |
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It has occurred to me that bullying is a problem in every society, although it seems to happen in a unique way within Japan. Nearly every day one of the major papers has a story on bullying. Almost always the papers refer to bullying in highschools. The papers seem to almost deliberately ignore the other kinds of bullying that exist -- mainly in the office. As it relates to the EFL industry, the Web is rife with stories of bullying within the Eikawa industry -- notably within the Big Four companies. In many of the cases, it would seem that authorities are non existent, and where they are they merely tell people to suck it up and deal with it themselves -- as seen in the media and on the Web, including this board -- a famous nonsympathetic --Tokyo Mayor Ishihara actually called bullying victims "weak". What I would like to know is, what is it that seems to encourage and enable bullies to do so much damage here? Why does it seem to occur here more than anywhere else? |
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Brooks
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1369 Location: Sagamihara
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:57 am Post subject: |
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well you have sempais and kohais.
Sempais can get away with stuff, sometimes too much.
There is a lot of intolerance in society. Conformity has a real strong pull.
And there is a lack of decent communication between people.
People get frustrated but they have to suck it up and at some point they want to take it out on someone.
But on the other hand, there are people who bully themselves - those that commit suicide. |
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Sweetsee

Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 2302 Location: ) is everything
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:23 am Post subject: |
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Brooks's post is spot on and I might add that popular Japanese culture in the form of television has a lot to do with it; young people imitating what they see everyday on the tube.
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Venti

Joined: 19 Oct 2006 Posts: 171 Location: Kanto, Japan
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:40 am Post subject: |
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Japanese society is still one where there is an accepted hierarchical structure. Not everyone is considered equal. There are roles, such as server and customer, but it goes further than that. So-called "half" children are often bullied for their lack of "purity". Even a family name can be a source of trouble. You know, the nail that sticks up gets hammered down, and all that. |
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markle
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 1316 Location: Out of Japan
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:48 am Post subject: |
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Venti wrote: |
Japanese society is still one where there is an accepted hierarchical structure. Not everyone is considered equal. There are roles, such as server and customer, but it goes further than that. |
Name one society where this not true. |
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furiousmilksheikali

Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 1660 Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:43 pm Post subject: Re: Bullying in Japan |
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Symphany wrote: |
It has occurred to me that bullying is a problem in every society, although it seems to happen in a unique way within Japan. Nearly every day one of the major papers has a story on bullying. Almost always the papers refer to bullying in highschools. The papers seem to almost deliberately ignore the other kinds of bullying that exist -- mainly in the office. As it relates to the EFL industry, the Web is rife with stories of bullying within the Eikawa industry -- notably within the Big Four companies. In many of the cases, it would seem that authorities are non existent, and where they are they merely tell people to suck it up and deal with it themselves -- as seen in the media and on the Web, including this board -- a famous nonsympathetic --Tokyo Mayor Ishihara actually called bullying victims "weak". What I would like to know is, what is it that seems to encourage and enable bullies to do so much damage here? Why does it seem to occur here more than anywhere else? |
Could you be a bit more specific regarding the Big Four?
If you are being mistreated by your employers you could always contact the union.
Shintaro Ishihara is a vile individual, but I don't think he is bears the responsibility for bullying that exists in Japan.
What do you mean it exists in Japan more that anywhere else? This seems to be a rather bold claim.
There are probably a variety of reasons for bullying in Japan just as there are in every culture.
Here's a little reading for you.
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=bullying+japan&hl=en&lr=&btnG=Search |
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Venti

Joined: 19 Oct 2006 Posts: 171 Location: Kanto, Japan
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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markle wrote: |
Venti wrote: |
Japanese society is still one where there is an accepted hierarchical structure. Not everyone is considered equal. There are roles, such as server and customer, but it goes further than that. |
Name one society where this not true. |
I should have said that the accepted structure that exists in Japan is quite unique among economic powerhouse nations. Though xenophobia and class discrimination exist on various levels in other developed nations, they're definitely put into a very negative light when exposed in places like the US, the UK, etc... Xenophobia and all sorts of discrimination seem to be par for the course here in Japan, or at the very least, not very off-putting to your average Japanese citizen. How else would you explain an outwardly racist bigot like Shintaro Ishihara getting elected twice as Tokyo's Governor? |
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furiousmilksheikali

Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 1660 Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:15 am Post subject: |
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Venti wrote: |
I should have said that the accepted structure that exists in Japan is quite unique among economic powerhouse nations. |
Venti wrote: |
How else would you explain an outwardly racist bigot like Shintaro Ishihara getting elected twice as Tokyo's Governor? |
Japan has not got a monopoly on racist bigots.
Strom Thurmond was a racist bigot who holds the record for a fillibuster in the US Senate blocking civil rights legislation. He was Senator of South Carolina from 1954 to 2003, repeatedly re-elected.
His bigot-in-arms Trent Lott, has been a Senator of Mississippi since 1989.
Hillary Clinton is a New York Senator who thinks that Arabs shouldn't be allowed access to US port security (with Trent Lott naturally).
France had a run-off presidential election between Jacques Chirac and Jean Marie Le Pen, the rabid National Front Leader.
Austria elected Jorg Haider's Freedom Party to the Austrian government which essentially meant a far-right party ruled there. |
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markle
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 1316 Location: Out of Japan
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:21 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Venti] Though xenophobia and class discrimination exist on various levels in other developed nations, they're definitely put into a very negative light when exposed in places like the US, the UK, etc... Xenophobia and all sorts of discrimination seem to be par for the course here in Japan, or at the very least, not very off-putting to your average Japanese citizen. How else would you explain an outwardly racist bigot like Shintaro Ishihara getting elected twice as Tokyo's Governor?[/quote]
I'd say that the spin machine here on issues such as xenophobia and other types of discrimination is less sophisticated than it is back home.
Anyhow, I'm sorry to hijack this thread a little, so back to the question.
I think this is a bit of a media beat-up. I also think that a couple of the kids that did commoit suicide were copycats rather than kids that had come up with the idea themselves. Maybe a there is a link with the traditional attitudes to suicide and the prevalence of it among teens here. In the US the kids seem to prefer to take an assult rifle to school.... |
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