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Malsol
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 Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:20 pm Post subject: Tutors for the dummies |
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Itsme
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Well that's a nice way of leveling the field.
With those incentives, noone will want an A nor will anyone want to improve from an F.
Why get an A if that means I will have to take time away from playing Warcraft XXVII?
Why improve from an F if I can make the person with an A get an F too by getting an F - - - -?
Just kidding.
That's a great idea! Let us know how it goes though. I'd love to know if the A students see this as a complement or not.
Sounds like Piaget to me. Put the best with the worst. The worst will improve some but the best will decline in performance too??? What's up with that. |
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roadwalker
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| If I were one of the better students, I would think you were a lazy teacher. I would resent the imposition on my time, and if I were very ambitious I would resent the fact that you were making me help the competition. I would start thinking about a way out of the assignment or revenge against that teacher. On the other hand, it just might work! |
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Malsol
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jwbhomer
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[quote="Malsol"]They seem to work in groups or pairs on their own. We tend to call it cheating.
So I am just rearranging the pairing and changing the incentives.[/quote]
What's the incentive for the A students? It seems to me like a DISincentive plan.
I too found that some of the brighter students in my classes tried to help some of the stupid ones by letting the latter copy their work. I could never figure out why they did so. I used to penalize that kind of "cooperation" by failing them both.
However, for some assignments I sometimes invited the students to choose partners, since they tended to do so anyway as Malsol observes. Since marks were shared, some of the poorer students were able to pass whereas otherwise they would have failed. That made MY results look better but I don't think the poorer students were genuinely helped. |
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Malsol
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Steppenwolf
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| roadwalker wrote: |
| If I were one of the better students, I would think you were a lazy teacher. I would resent the imposition on my time, and if I were very ambitious I would resent the fact that you were making me help the competition. I would start thinking about a way out of the assignment or revenge against that teacher. On the other hand, it just might work! |
But the "better students" are vastly outnumbered by the also-ran majority, and those no doubt consider Malsol's attitude to them as npositive.
Besides you should acquaint yourself with the finer possibilites of using students as co-teachers; they can apply peer pressure more softly and more effectively than the authority-loaded teacher.
In fact, students who teach their classmates are bound to increase their skills and knowledge more efficiently than through self-study! |
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