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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's pretty low...claiming that people who don't agree with you do so simply because they see you as a newcomer? C'mon, you can do better than that. At least have the integrity to realize that people have ideas that are different from yours and are just as willing to defend them with passion.
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cangringo



Joined: 18 Jan 2007
Posts: 327
Location: Vancouver, Canada

PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forgot to say...Ben, while i realize I haven't been here long comparitively I did say say that I was talking about the teachers I've witnessed here although I find it hard to believe that they don't explain things in Spanish, it's too easy not too.

That's like saying that a Spanish/French/German teacher who is a native English speaker is going to teach solely in Spanish or French or whatever language. I have never seen it done but that's not to say that it hasn't been. Laughing

Oh and as for my en ingles por favor, that's what I say as I'm laughing to encourage them to explain in English. I wasn't the one that said I had a strictly English classroom, only that I try to keep them from explaining in English. Sometimes it's easier to do vocab with the Spanish word because there's no way to explain it or they just aren't understanding. I just said I prefer it to be in English.
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Ben Round de Bloc



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Posts: 1946

PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mapache wrote:
how histerical, the AI system deleted *beep* even when it wasn't a grosseria! Razz

Dave's system beeps "groser�as." (I would probably have used the word insultos instead.) However, Dave's system doesn't beep BS. Most posters on this forum who have been teaching and living in Mexico for at least a few years can spot the BS pretty quickly, sort of like a built-in BS detector. A bit of advice to some of those who are new to the forum, to TEFL, and to Mexico: Remember that a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. When you try to come across as an expert who has it all figured out, you're going set off the BS detectors and ruffle some feathers.

C0ck-a-d00dle-d00! Wink
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Samantha



Joined: 25 Oct 2003
Posts: 2038
Location: Mexican Riviera

PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BRdB wrote:
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you're going set off the BS detectors



Yup, I'm pretty sure Moonraven would have had something to say right about now. Or maybe 5 or 6 pages ago.
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sarliz



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
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Location: Jalisco

PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate to reactivate this thread after everyone seems to have tuckered out of it, but I just read the last three pages and was trying to mull over my feelings. I've only seen a handfull of Mexican English teachers at work (mostly while observing classes as part of TEFL training), but the problem I noticed most was not grammatical issues or busting into Spanish constantly, but rather misusing vocabulary. The one example I specifically remember was calling any top that a female was wearing a blouse (maybe this flies in England?), t-shirts and all. I think there are a lot of wonky vocabulary words like that that take a lot of using to get used to, and aren't covered by grammar rules, you're just gotta recognize them. Or recognize that you don't. I have a colleague (Mexican) who teaches down the hall from me, and we're constantly doing vocab exchanges mid-class. I got to help him with play-pen last week. Apparently "baby cage" wasn't flying. So, yeah. I don't think this is an insurmountable problem, just ask somebody if you're not 100% positive.
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