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jedstephen
Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 12
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:57 pm Post subject: ESL Newcomer |
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In a couple of weeks I will be traveling to China to start my first ESL teaching job. I wonder if anybody could give me some advice to further prepare me for my teaching career. I will be teaching kids and adults at varying levels.
1 - If the kids do not understand the English alphabet, should I write the words on the board? or should I start by teaching them the alphabet?
2 - Should I spend the next few weeks studying grammar? studying teaching techniques? researching lesson plans?
Any help will be greatly appreciated. This happened very fast and I want to utilize the small amount of time I have to best of my ability. |
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Malsol
Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 1976 Location: Lanzhou
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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I just love watching a train wreck in progress. |
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nickpellatt
Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 1522
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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Im not very experienced myself - but will attempt to help, or make it easier for others to help...
Firstly - and of course it all depends on the levels and abilities of your students....but the blackboard is a fantastic tool......
Sometimes my students didnt understand me whilst speaking, but DID understand if I wrote the sentence on the board.....which mirrored my time in a class learning other languages....
Being able to read, gives you a little more time to think and process the info....so indeed you can use the board to both yours and your students advantage..
DONT write solely in capital letters though....student not used to a romanized alphabet find it hard to read capital letters. (based on my experiences)
And in order for others to be able to help, maybe you could share with us your experience thus far, qualifications etc.... |
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Malsol
Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 1976 Location: Lanzhou
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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nickpellatt wrote: |
Im not very experienced myself - but will attempt to help, or make it easier for others to help...
Firstly - and of course it all depends on the levels and abilities of your students....but the blackboard is a fantastic tool......
Sometimes my students didnt understand me whilst speaking, but DID understand if I wrote the sentence on the board.....which mirrored my time in a class learning other languages....
Being able to read, gives you a little more time to think and process the info....so indeed you can use the board to both yours and your students advantage..
DONT write solely in capital letters though....student not used to a romanized alphabet find it hard to read capital letters. (based on my experiences)
And in order for others to be able to help, maybe you could share with us your experience thus far, qualifications etc.... |
Reminds me of kids having kids.
Nick you have no idea how old the "kids" are or what grade they are in, or what they already know or don't and you jump in with your advice? Two train wrecks looking for a place to happen. Hey this place is finally getting exciting. |
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jedstephen
Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 12
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks nickpellatt
I have a degree in History with a Fine Art Minor. This past December I completed my ESL certificate from Oxford Seminars. It taught me a lot, but really not sure what to expect when I get there.
I have worked with kids at orphanages and sporting camps in the past, but this is my first time really teaching. |
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nickpellatt
Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 1522
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Regardless I will stand by my inexperience and naivety and stick to my guns on bodly suggesting the blackboard is useful and writing in capital letters can make things harder...
I take it you will be arriving 'in-country' at least a few days before you begin to teach? if so, perhaps you will have a chance to meet other teachers and some of your pupils so this might help...
Before then...can your school or place of employment give you some brief on what is expected from you?
Are their other foreign teachers there who you could perhaps contact? Maybe they could offer some help?
Maybe someone on here has taught where you are going, and can offer suggestions.
Did part of your TEFL/EFL course include lesson plans / games etc, if so, those or variations of those can be used..
It would seem that foreign teachers in China are often (but not always) employed in the role of conversation buddies, so studying lots of grammar etc beforehand may not be right for the role you are going into, hence the importance of trying to get some info beforehand.
Again based on my limited experience as a newcomer, I did find that the vast majority of everyone I encountered at my school was very keen to help, and did brief me and provide books and ideas before my first class.
Im sure you can pick up lots of ideas from here, and can find some help too, but first port of call should be the people you will be employed by. |
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movinaround
Joined: 08 Jun 2006 Posts: 202
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:23 am Post subject: |
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Malsol wrote: |
I just love watching a train wreck in progress. |
If you saw that a train was going to derail because of some problem on the tracks and you were sitting right next to a switch which could change the course of the train to a track you knew would be safe, would you just sit there and make fun of all those people or would you pull the switch?
For the OP, your best bet is to get in contact with the teachers there and ask them. It sounds like you will be teaching all over the ability spectrum and it would be hard for us to give any sort of detailed advice without spending a lot of time typing The teachers are the best choice for advice right now, because they know what the students want and more importantly, what your employer wants (a teacher or a dancing monkey...).
If you can give any more details, I will try to help as best I can. |
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Malsol
Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 1976 Location: Lanzhou
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:34 am Post subject: |
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If you saw that a train was going to derail because of some problem on the tracks and you were sitting right next to a switch which could change the course of the train to a track you knew would be safe, would you just sit there and make fun of all those people or would you pull the switch? |
This is China so I would do exacrtly what any respectable intelligent Chinese would do. |
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Steppenwolf
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 1769
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:42 am Post subject: |
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You just don't have enough time to acquaint yourself with the relevant facts here before arriving in China! I guess you have been hired because they need a figurehead, a white or foreign face, not a teacher. They will put you in your station and you will not be expected to "know" how to do anything except to make your native noises!
It is obvious that you have been accepted by a training centre; they steal everyone's precious spare time with their extra-curricular pseudo-English lessons; in the end you will be modelling English speech, piecemeal work that will never be finished and ensure the training centre future work to do!
Just my advice: no, the blackboard (sometimes a whiteboard) is not really a good idea! They should learn to understand without visual aids because they see too much written English anyway. IN POINT OF FACT, YOU WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO TEACH PRESCHOOLERS HOW TO WRITE?READ! |
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NathanRahl
Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 509
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:43 am Post subject: |
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I have to agree with Step, avoid the blackboard if at al possible. Your much better off teaching the children how to sound out words and spell them that way then actually showing them. This will help them remember the word better, having to visualize the sounds and figure out what sounds are associated with what letters. As it is chinese students just don't know how to listen.
I have one student who continually says she does not know a word. She will then proceed to write it down, and then presto, she says "OH, yes, I know what this word means" even though simply from hearing it she did not. Teach them to make that connection between what they hear and the spelling, this will help you a great deal.
You see, chinese teachers don't teach english like we do, they teach english in chinese. Why? Because they are dumb. They don't have the imagination or foresight to understand indepthly that, if you just teach them how to write it, they will only be able to conceptualize and comprehend it in written form. What good is this if they ever wish to speak it though. Don't make the mistake ever that, just because they can read it, that they understand it, this is one of the more common errors ESL teachers make. This little tidbit will help you more then any I think. Do away with the black board unless absolutely necessary, your teaching spoken english, so teach them how to understand it when it is spoken. |
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Malsol
Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 1976 Location: Lanzhou
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:05 am Post subject: |
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Have you ever seen a monkey grinder working with his pet monkey?
You are the pet monkey but there is no grinder, you are a free lance monkey working for peanuts. |
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latefordinner
Joined: 19 Aug 2003 Posts: 973
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:07 am Post subject: |
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Sticking my neck out a bit, I find the blackboard is sometimes a great tool, depending on what you're using it for and just who the students are. I almost never touched it, except for a few impromtu drawings, when teaching little tykes, preschool to grade 3. Now I'm teaching at a college and I use it a lot. (Target questions left side, relevent quote across the top, vocab right side, centre open for whatever comes up in class) Not only does it give the visual reinforcment for what we're discussing, but the consistent (more ore less) lesson structure helps them put the pieces together when (if) they use their notebooks to study. In short, your mileage will vary.
One other small point about the blackboard. Try to print simple, boxy letters at first, don't just scribble out your cursive script. Take your time developing your calligraphy, and your students will adapt to your handwriting more easily. But you know this already.
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For the OP, your best bet is to get in contact with the teachers there and ask them. It sounds like you will be teaching all over the ability spectrum and it would be hard for us to give any sort of detailed advice without spending a lot of time typing The teachers are the best choice for advice right now, because they know what the students want and more importantly, what your employer wants (a teacher or a dancing monkey...) |
I was thinking the same, but you put it quite nicely there. My own TESOL training hardly prepared me for teaching in a classroom, even though I had previous ESL experience and experience coaching children. I don't think there's an easy way into it, but what helped me immensely was the staff at my first school, both foreign and chinese. IF I'd been at another school that year (or at the same school another year), I might have packed it in and said, "Not for me". As it went, I was lucky and worked with some good people and they gave me a lot of guidance and now I'm hooked. |
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Steppenwolf
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 1769
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:50 am Post subject: |
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latefordinner wrote: |
Sticking my neck out a bit, I find the blackboard is sometimes a great tool, depending on what you're using it for and just who the students are. I almost never touched it, except for a few impromtu drawings, when teaching little tykes, preschool to grade 3. Now I'm teaching at a college and I use it a lot. (Target questions left side, relevent quote across the top, vocab right side, centre open for whatever comes up in class) Not only does it give the visual reinforcment for what we're discussing, but the consistent (more ore less) lesson structure helps them put the pieces together when (if) they use their notebooks to study. In short, your mileage will vary.
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While the above seems to be the opinion of someone well-intentioned, we mustn't forget that our role is to train - not teach! - students at using English aurally and orally. This job reposes not on "reinforcing" mental images of written words but on communicating without extraneous forms of help. To parallel an aural signal with a visual one is to offer a prop that will in the end be difficult to abandon; for example if students are told a figure in English, any CHinese English teacher will hold up the number of fingers that best represents the actual number pronounced (3 fingers for 300, for example). Try to see why they can seldom distinguish between "13" and "30"!
This approach reminds me of the speak-and-translate approach so favoured by all our Chinese colleagues! The pathetic conseuqence is known to all of us!
If you want to use a blackboard then try to use it for drawings! THis is especially true in the kindergarten! There ought to be NO blackboard in any kindergarten - or only one for the purpose of drawing! The kiddies are too young to get a grip on the abstract meanings of letters! Apart from that, the CHinese pronounce the ABC differently from the English and if you don't teach the ABC in a very direct, English-only way they will get confused!
It has come to my attention that lots of adult students can't pronounce English letters correctly: they confuse 'J' with 'G', mispronounce 'X' and 'Z' and struggle to enunciate most other letters clearly enough and without adding a schwas sound! |
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Shakhbut
Joined: 14 May 2005 Posts: 167
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:06 am Post subject: |
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Steppenwolf is right on the money. Remember, kids don't learn the way we, as adults, do. You need to, as much as possible, avoid language rules and word visuals. If you want to use the blackboard, use it to draw pictures of nouns and verbs.
One thing invaluable for teaching kids, flashcards! Humorous ones if possible. And be prepared to run around like and a half-wit entertaining them, they learn best with all senses stimulated.
Good luck,
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eslstudies

Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 1061 Location: East of Aden
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:18 am Post subject: |
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Steppenwolf wrote: |
While the above seems to be the opinion of someone well-intentioned, we mustn't forget that our role is to train - not teach! - students at using English aurally and orally. |
Speak for yourself. I teach people how to do things. You train them to do things. Semantics maybe, but I prefer my job to yours. |
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