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pacific



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:55 am    Post subject: applying for permanent residency Reply with quote

I am a Czech citizen, my husband has U.S. citizenship. Does anyone here know how the process of applying for permanent residency in CR works? Can it be started in the U.S. or is it easier to do this once in the Czech Rep.? How long does the process take?
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merlin



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a pretty easy process compered to other processes in the Czech republic.
I seem to remember it didn't take long at all - about 2 months?
The easiest way to get information is to call directory assistance in CR and ask for the Czizince Policie, but don't expect them to speak English. I don't know about now but 5 years ago the US was classed with vietnamese and Ukranians and the official didn't speak English where I applied.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can shed a little additional light on this one, having a Czech spouse and permanent residency thanks to this.

You should apply in the okres/region where the Czech citizen was born.

In my case, this allowed us to avoid the Prague system, since my spouse was born in Tabor. The smaller venue made the process much more pleasant, I can tell you! No long lines, staff actually relatively friendly and forthcoming....

The application process includes some fairly extensive paperwork clarifying previous addresses and focusing on parents. You'll want to have all the relevant parental info with you (I had to calculate father's age on the spot!).

You'll also need two European passport photos (you can get these in any big shopping area in the CR). Your husband will ultimately receive a green passport-type document which is not valid for travel, but will cover him for both residency and work within the country. This document can take up to a year to receive (or it may take a lot less, depending - mine was just eight weeks or so, as Merlin remembers). However, the fact that this paperwork is filed should cover your husband in the interim in terms of legality. That question would be one to clarify when you are at the police offices.

Permanent residency also entitles your husband to a stamp in his US passport stating that he is a spouse of an EU member citizen- I am not sure how directly valuable this might be in terms of employment within the EU at the moment, but it can't hurt!

In case you decide to pursue Czech citizenship for him, the current law is that you can submit papers three years after issuance of the permanent residency. There is a language examination. The U.S./Czech Rep do allow dual citizenship.
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pacific



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your replies. I knew spiral would have some good info for me Smile

My son, born in the U.S., already has dual citizenship. I applied for him via a Czech consulate and voila. I call him the luckiest family member!

I didn't realize a person with permanent residency could apply for Czech citizenship after only three years! Did you do that? How long is the wait time after that?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been married for 7 years, but just got permanent residency in 2005 (we were living in the Netherlands, and I didn't have time/need to do it sooner). I can apply for citizenship in 2008, therefore, and will definitely do so. I've already spoken to the officials in Ceske Budejovice (the greater Tabor regional office) and I will have to take a language exam and then they will file the papers. They expect that citizenship should come through quite quickly, like within 90 days, since the investigations that need to be done are primarily carried out before granting permanent residency. So, I don't yet know from first-hand experience, but I think this should be the standard.

How's your husband's Czech? This could be the toughest part to pull off - mine is functional, but I'm going to take an intensive before facing the test.
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merlin



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd do a bit more research on the US side before your husband tries to get Czech citizenship. As I understand it, people born in another country are allowed to have dual citizenship but for those who grew up in the US aquiring dual citizenship is not to be taken up lightly. I believe in the latter case you could have your US citizenship taken away in certain cases.

True, what the US governement doesn't know won't hurt them, but remember which government we're talking about ...

I personally see no real benefit to becoming a Czech citizen. Get the permanent resident first, live here for ten years, and then let your husband decide at that time if he want to be tied to this country for the rest of his life. Many people with similar ambitions reconsider after a few years.


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spiral78



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, Merlin, this time you're wrong.

I was born in the U.S., and, while the authorities may not be flattered that I'm acquiring another citizenship, there is NO official problem with having two passports. No one has to give up his/her U.S. citizenship first, at the present time. This from my first hand, continuing experience in the matter.

The potential benefits to becoming a Czech citizen also includes legal working/living permits for some EU member countries.

I want to emphasize that this is NOT why I have filed the paperwork to gain citizenship (in any case, I have permission for the Netherlands and Austria through my spouse's international company).

Obviously, everyone's experiences are different. But I've been married to a Czech for seven years (together for nine) and I have serious, long-term connections in the country, including real estate. Not to mention my love for the Czech Rep and (almost) all things Czech.

I personally know quite a few foreigners who have seriously assimilated into the Czech Rep.

If you're hanging out primarily in the Prague expat scene, this might be difficult to see often. But we're there...because we want to be, and are committed to the country more deeply than those who are essentially long-term visitors. I sometimes actually find myself looking forward to next year when I'll be able to.....vote!!
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Arab Strap



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to complicate matters a bit further..............

Back in 2003 when I applied for my permanent residency and before CZ became part of the EU I had to prove that I had around 140,000CZK in my bank account before I could apply............

Now this has no doubt changed for EU citizens but as your husband is an American perhaps this still applies...............

Try the Czizince Policie..........

Spiral, how difficult is this Czech language exam?

I've been away a while and to be honest my one year old's Czech is fast catching up with mine.

This would need an internet search but as far as I am aware I am breaking the law as both my kids have British passports and are on my wife's Czech passport. The Mrs insists that they can't have the two passports is this the case...................just a wee question.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I acquired permanent residency in 2005 and there was no check of finances. Maybe because we'd been married more than five years already? We own a flat in the CR as well, but no one inquired into whether we had property, so I suppose this requirement's been dropped for spouses of Czech nationals.

Arab Strap, were you married at the time you applied for perm. residency?

I am 100% certain that I am allowed by both the Czech government and the U.S. one to hold both passports. Have done the research, asked the questions.

I do not know whether the law may be different for your children, but I would think that they'd be entitled to both yours and her citizenships. At least, under Czech law - but you should inquire!!

I'm also a little apprehensive about the language exam. My Czech's functional - I live six months of the year in a small town where I'm the only non-native Czech speaker. I do all daily business in Czech only, and spend quite a bit of time socializing in the language as w