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degolasse

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Posts: 21
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:45 pm Post subject: Start up costs with Interac |
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So yesterday I was offered a job with Interac for a Sept-March contract. Now I need to decide if I should accept it or not.
My main reason for choosing Interac is that I want an ALT position rather than a doing conversation. Unfortunatly I missed the JET deadlines so my options for ALT while applying from abroad seem limited.
I've read alot of forums on Interac and so I don't need to be told again how they are the scum of the earth and no one should work for them, blah blah.... I'm a pretty easy-to-please person and I'm willing to take a chance on them.
But what I am concerned about is the start up costs when working for them, since they don't pay for any of your accomidation. I'd like to hear from some people who have gone with Interact, and particularly those who have gone to rural locations since thats what I'm hoping to get. What sort of things am I going to have to pay for, and what things, like furnishing etc.. with I have to take care of?
Since I'm only going to be working for them for 7-8 months, what's the chances that I'm not going to spend the first half of it in debt, sleeping on the floor of my unfurnished flat. Will I be able to save any money in 7-8 months? Im not looking to make much, but it would be nice to at least have a little something to show when I get home.
If it looks like Im not going to be able to afford to work for Interac, then I might have to consider one of the Big Four. Though a job at a conversation school doesn't really interest me, at least they provide cheap furnished accomidation and I can probably make more money in the long run. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| what I am concerned about is the start up costs when working for them, since they don't pay for any of your accomidation. |
Almost nobody does.
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| I'd like to hear from some people who have gone with Interact, and particularly those who have gone to rural locations since thats what I'm hoping to get. What sort of things am I going to have to pay for, and what things, like furnishing etc.. with I have to take care of? |
Get it straight with Interac right away, beginning with the spelling of their name (no final T). You shouldn't have to pay for key money, especially if they provide housing that another teacher has just vacated. Obviously, if they set up the housing that way, you shouldn't have to furnish it with any basic necessities, either. I've never worked for Interac, but this is just a general rule of thumb here. I see by their web site that they DON'T provide setup costs. Cheap SOBs, and if I were as desperate as you, I would DEFINITELY ask them if a previous teacher had the apartment for the reasons I stated above, especially since you plan to be here for less than a year. Key money will take a bite out of your pocketbook, and it shouldn't have to be that way.
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| Since I'm only going to be working for them for 7-8 months, what's the chances that I'm not going to spend the first half of it in debt, sleeping on the floor of my unfurnished flat. |
Interac pays a fairly standard wage (roughly 250,000, right?), so you'll burn half of that on basic needs. How you spend the other half is up to you. Do you have any debts back home (student loans, for example)? Even if you do, you can live well enough, especially in the countryside.
Interac should also pay for commuting costs, but that's just another rule of thumb and you should confirm this in the contract. (Contract DOES have a final T. )
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| If it looks like Im not going to be able to afford to work for Interac, then I might have to consider one of the Big Four. Though a job at a conversation school doesn't really interest me, at least they provide cheap furnished accomidation and I can probably make more money in the long run. |
Interac should provide you with the same opportunity. By the way, NOVA will charge you about 70,000 for rent plus utilities (the same amount that each of your roomies will get, so it's not that cheap when you total the costs and compare to the real rent on the apartment. |
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degolasse

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Posts: 21
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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what I am concerned about is the start up costs when working for them, since they don't pay for any of your accomidation.
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Sorry, I didn't mean that they pay for my rent, but most of the big companies cover the initial key money, deposit etc.. Interac pays for nothing. It's up to me to cover all the start up costs. Though I realise that Nova and the others charge more than most people think is fair, not having all the initial costs or having to search for furniture seems worth it to me. Hence my question directed at those who have worked with interact and know firsthand - what should I plan to spent when I arrive and what do I need to take care of?
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| Get it straight with Interac right away, beginning with the spelling of their name (no final T). |
Thanks for your words of wisdom. After applying for the job, going to the interview, and reading the offer email, I wasn't aware of how their name is spelled. I guess the 5 times that I spelled it right in the question were actually the real typos. |
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JimDunlop2

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Posts: 2286 Location: Japan
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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You're going to have to pay for your own K-Y Jelly, cause you're getting BONED with Interac. They already withhold roughly $1000 from your monthly wage as commission. Jeez, for that you'd think they'd help you get a place to live.
Ba$tards. I recommend not working for Interac. It's just that simple.
Now watch all the Interac apologists come onto this thread running, screaming, "It's not so bad! It's not so bad! I worked there and they treated me great!" Whatever. Your life. |
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southofreality
Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Posts: 579 Location: Tokyo
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:14 am Post subject: |
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To the OP, Glenski's right. You shouldn't have to pay key money since you'll likely be moving into the previous ALT's apartment, which is probably held by the city or town you'll be working in.
Anyway, I paid a ¥100,000 deposit directly to the town I lived in for my apartment. I didn't pay any apartment start-up costs to Interac; I always dealt directly with the town office. When I vacated the apartment, I received the deposit money back. No problems. My rent was cheap (¥35000) because I lived in a very rural area. I don't remember paying any other apartment start-up costs. I always paid rent at the end of the month. |
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littleturtle
Joined: 31 Oct 2006 Posts: 24
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:29 am Post subject: |
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Interac is a good way to start in Japan, if you plan to live here for a long time. They offer no help at all starting up, so if your plans involve staying in the country with a different employer past the end of your contract, then its good.
Grab interac by the balls and demand a fully furnished, internet included, monthly mansion. Leopalace and Sakura House are good examples. Interac bleat that its not their responsibility, but refuse to sign a contract with them until you are happy with housing. They wont turn around and say, oh, ok, no job for you, because they have already allocated you a school or twelve, and they cant refill that position in a matter of days.
At the very least, demand a clean, furnished apartment with no key money.
And take photos of it as you move in - when you leave, restore the place to the state of cleanliness it was when you moved in - or better - and then you can refuse to pay a cleaning fee to the estate agent, because its already clean.
Otherwise, startup is TOO expensive. Because of the way Interac works, you wont get your first pay until 2 months after you start working. I am nearing the end of a September - March contract, and by not blowing all my money on drinking etc, I will have been able to save, by my calculations,, at the end of my contract, about the same amount of money that it cost me to arrive.
From arrival to first pay, I spent 500,000 yen. I think I will be able to recoup that and fly home with the same amount of money I arrived with.
Net financial gain over seven months, zero. But thats better than it being negative, eh. |
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