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Quibby84
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Do you work for Customs?
Any story that is spead across about 50 different posts is going to have holes silly, and if you feel like driving a mac truck through them then by all means...go for it
Drive all day! We have our visas now and I feel like a million bucks...well I guess I dont feel THAT good...
So I just wrote a letter to the school. I kept it very nice and polite, just telling them that we need to go home in July and we are willing to help them to make that possible, and the winner that I told them is that we dont expect to get paid. I really hope that this works because I dont want two plane seats to sit open and I dont want to have to find a new job...so I am thinking positive. If the visa could be fixed anything is possible...right? |
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kendoman1
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:22 am Post subject: |
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Oh, I forget to mention that our company actually did do the paperwork ahead of time. We didnt think that they had done it but when we went today they had a stack of official looking papers (with our pictures on it and stuff) and that is why the visa was ready. My husbands stuff was in a very long time ago (mine about a month ago) but we didn't think he would get his without his gaijin card...so yeah, they had done the set up paperwork before we had gotten here.
I just checked our visas and we have a visa that lasts for one year from today. |
First lets start with your last sentence. Your visa would not be one year from today, but from the day that you first arrived in Japan.
Next, Your paperwork can't be processed without immigration having your passports and immigration would have red flagged your husbands application, because there was no landing permission stamp inside. Plus your company can't turn in any paperwork to immgration without your passports. So your company could not have done the set-up paperwork before you arrived as you stated.
In another post in this thread you stated that you turned in your paperwork and immigration then gave you your visas. I'm sorry, but you said that your company turned in all your paperwork before hand so therefore you should have not had anymore paperwork to turn in.
Immigration will not give you a visa that day. If you had really done this immigration would have given you postcards to fill out and stamped your passport application pending.
Now lets say immigration actually did forget to stamp your husbands passport they would have caught this by the number of passengers on the flight against the number of landing permission stamps that they gave and they could have easily caught the misstake against the flight passenger list and would have got your husbands name. This would have been a very serious error on their part and it would have not been kept quite. |
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canuck
Joined: 11 May 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:46 am Post subject: |
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| kendoman1 wrote: |
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Oh, I forget to mention that our company actually did do the paperwork ahead of time. We didnt think that they had done it but when we went today they had a stack of official looking papers (with our pictures on it and stuff) and that is why the visa was ready. My husbands stuff was in a very long time ago (mine about a month ago) but we didn't think he would get his without his gaijin card...so yeah, they had done the set up paperwork before we had gotten here.
I just checked our visas and we have a visa that lasts for one year from today. |
First lets start with your last sentence. Your visa would not be one year from today, but from the day that you first arrived in Japan.
Next, Your paperwork can't be processed without immigration having your passports and immigration would have red flagged your husbands application, because there was no landing permission stamp inside. Plus your company can't turn in any paperwork to immgration without your passports. So your company could not have done the set-up paperwork before you arrived as you stated.
In another post in this thread you stated that you turned in your paperwork and immigration then gave you your visas. I'm sorry, but you said that your company turned in all your paperwork before hand so therefore you should have not had anymore paperwork to turn in.
Immigration will not give you a visa that day. If you had really done this immigration would have given you postcards to fill out and stamped your passport application pending.
Now lets say immigration actually did forget to stamp your husbands passport they would have caught this by the number of passengers on the flight against the number of landing permission stamps that they gave and they could have easily caught the misstake against the flight passenger list and would have got your husbands name. This would have been a very serious error on their part and it would have not been kept quite. |
Scan a picture of the visa in the passport. I think kendoman1 made many valid points. As head teacher, you will have access to a scanner. |
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furiousmilksheikali
Joined: 31 Jul 2006
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Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:03 am Post subject: |
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| kendoman1 wrote: |
| Quibby84 wrote: |
Oh, I forget to mention that our company actually did do the paperwork ahead of time. We didnt think that they had done it but when we went today they had a stack of official looking papers (with our pictures on it and stuff) and that is why the visa was ready. My husbands stuff was in a very long time ago (mine about a month ago) but we didn't think he would get his without his gaijin card...so yeah, they had done the set up paperwork before we had gotten here.
I just checked our visas and we have a visa that lasts for one year from today. |
First lets start with your last sentence. Your visa would not be one year from today, but from the day that you first arrived in Japan.
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This wouldn't be true. If you change visa status then in is valid from then. According to Quibby she was working illegally until she was granted a visa by immigration so the visa would be valid from then. |
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Quibby84
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:49 am Post subject: |
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Yes, right..our visas started from yesterday.
Here is what happened:
We scanned our visas and sent a copy along with all of our other paperwork to our school a few months ago. They did all the prep-work for our visas.
We get here. My husbands visa was not stamped.
We get to our school and tell them, they are like oh my, so they call office and ask what to do. Office says to come in, when we go in we turn in papers that were already filled out (from prep-work) and extra papers (I have no clue as to what they all were, most was in japanese, but I did see a a yellow paper with my picture on it that looked official)
We give them the passports, they do stuff (I have no idea what) and give us our visas starting from that day.
Now that is what I know, I know nothing about checking planes and all that all I know is the facts of what happened. I dont know exactly what paperwork was done but I know that there was some done because we got our visas yesterday. I also know that we sent them lots of information before we came...
so that is the story...
oh, maybe the paperwork we turned in with the passports was proof or something so that they would stamp my husbands passport... |
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Quibby84
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| do you REALLY want me to scan the visa and send it to you? |
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furiousmilksheikali
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| Quibby84 wrote: |
We scanned our visas and sent a copy along with all of our other paperwork to our school a few months ago. |
What visas? |
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Quibby84
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:59 am Post subject: |
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I guess it is passport...
but some people say visas....so tell me, without visa stamp...what is it called? Passport? or Visa? or what? |
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Gordon
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:06 am Post subject: |
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| Quibby84 wrote: |
I guess it is passport...
but some people say visas....so tell me, without visa stamp...what is it called? Passport? or Visa? or what? |
A visa is a stamp or sticker in your passport. |
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Grasshopper
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:06 am Post subject: |
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Leave Quibby alone...I`m sure she meant passports...
And as far as the "holes" kendoman, except for never having worked illegally, my trips to immigration have been similiar to what Quibby described.
This is Japan. There are always extra papers to fill out. Both times I lived in Japan, my visas were also valid from the date I went to immigration. When I get an extention though, they seem to extend one year from the expiration date of the current visa.
And none of us were at the airport with Quibby...we don`t know what really happened. I`m not a customs agent. But mistakes happen everywhere. She says her husband`s all set now.
But I can completely envision what she describes happening at any of the immigration agencies I`ve been to. And overall, immigration agents tend to be helpful, at least the ones I`ve come across.
Anyway, glad you`re all set Quibby. Have fun in Japan. |
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Gordon
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:07 am Post subject: |
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| Another question, how could all this be happening to you when you are in Louisiana? |
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Grasshopper
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:08 am Post subject: |
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...and at my first job here, my employer had also arranged everything with immigration ahead of time. There were no postcards...and no passports ahead of time.
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furiousmilksheikali
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| Quibby84 wrote: |
I guess it is passport...
but some people say visas....so tell me, without visa stamp...what is it called? Passport? or Visa? or what? |
Your visa is the stamp that is attached to your passport, not the passport itself. You seem to use the words "visa" and "passport" interchangeably, which is the type of thing that can get you into trouble if an employer asks you if you have a valid visa. |
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Gordon
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:11 am Post subject: |
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Leave Quibby alone...I`m sure she meant passports...
And as far as the "holes" kendoman, except for never having worked illegally, my trips to immigration have been similiar to what Quibby described.
This is Japan. There are always extra papers to fill out. Both times I lived in Japan, my visas were also valid from the date I went to immigration. When I get an extention though, they seem to extend one year from the expiration date of the current visa.
And none of us were at the airport with Quibby...we don`t know what really happened. I`m not a customs agent. But mistakes happen everywhere. She says her husband`s all set now.
But I can completely envision what she describes happening at any of the immigration agencies I`ve been to. And overall, immigration agents tend to be helpful, at least the ones I`ve come across.
Anyway, glad you`re all set Quibby. Have fun in Japan. |
I agree, Immigration officials can be stupid worldwide, even the Japanese ones, though they might be inclined to tell you they are racially superior. |
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Quibby84
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:43 am Post subject: |
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thanks for the defense 
everything happened in Japan except for the park about us sending papers in...we mailed them from Louisiana.
yes, it is all settled now...YAH! |
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