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petapepa

Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 11
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:45 am Post subject: Students' lives in China |
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Just a couple of questions. I'm thinking of making the move from Taiwan to China mainly out of boredom and looking for something a little different. Just wondering.
Do students in China suffer the humiliation of corporal punishment in the public school system much as they do here in Taiwan? Also, do they generally suffer the daily grind of tests, tests, tests followed by long hours shuffling from cram school to cram school after hours? Is the competition to get into a so called "good school" as fierce as it is here in Taiwan?
These are just some of the things that gradually wear away at my heart on this little island and I'm just wondering if I'm heading into a "same s**t different pile" scenario. Thanks to anyone willing to respond. |
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Steppenwolf
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 1769
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:32 am Post subject: |
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You could have saved bandwith by checking out old threads on related topics; of course China is not very different from Taiwan in the regards you mentioned. Cramming: a 14-hour-a-day student job; purpose of studying: to take tests and pass exams...and to liberate one's brain capacity of memory bits as soon as the exam is passed so that the same threadmill can go on and on ad infinitum...
And yes, they all hope to be admitted to "elite" schools... |
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DistantRelative
Joined: 19 Oct 2004 Posts: 367 Location: Shaanxi/Xian
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Wish I had better news for you, but with the exception of the corporal punishment (I've certainly never seen any) pretty much everything else you mention is about the norm.
Zhuhao,
Shawn |
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petapepa

Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 11
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:51 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for your replies. Cheers! |
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jeffinflorida

Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 2024 Location: "I'm too proud to beg and too lazy to work" Uncle Fester, The Addams Family season two
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:34 am Post subject: |
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If they had corporal punishment here in China's schools I think I would have enjoyed my jobs a bit more...
Just the thought of paddling the behind of a naughty Chinese college student brings tingling sensations to my...
(Uh that's female students only, in case you are wondering...). |
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diana83709
Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Posts: 148 Location: Nanchong, Sichuan province, China
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:00 am Post subject: |
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Some of the Chinese teachers at our school practise corporal punishment, even though they are not supposed to. One teacher went so far as to punch a student in the stomach (middle school student). Another teacher likes to hit with a bamboo stick. We call her "Spanking Lady".
In 2005/2006, I taught at a primary school. The head (Chinese) English teacher slammed a 2nd grader into the desk divider and cut the little guy's ear, causing it to bleed. She told him "Sorry", then proceeded to continue punishment.
There is also quite a bit of verbal abuse done to the students by the teachers. They will chastise the kids for an entire class period, and the student is reduced to tears. |
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TravellingAround

Joined: 12 Nov 2006 Posts: 423
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:19 am Post subject: |
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| Wow...it sounds like the Cultural Revolution...in reverse! |
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11:59

Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 632 Location: Hong Kong: The 'Pearl of the Orient'
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:25 am Post subject: |
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The following is far from uncommon.
http://www.newsgd.com/culture/universities/200610240018.htm
"Teacher forces two girls to drink liquor as punishment
A TEACHER forced two schoolgirls to drink a bottle of liquor between them as punishment for neglecting their studies, Chinese media reported yesterday (Oct 23).
The middle school students were sent to hospital Friday in Northwest China's Shaanxi Province, suffering from vomiting and dizziness after they drank the baijiu - a powerful grain-based alcohol which means "white liquor" in Chinese.
"The teacher found a hair curler and a letter among their belongings, so he decided to punish them for not concentrating on their studies," the Beijing News said. "At the teacher's insistence, the two girls had to finish one bottle of baijiu against their will." A schoolboy who spoke out against the punishment was beaten by the same teacher, it said.
The report did not say whether the teacher would face punishment.
In September, a history teacher in Hunan beat an 11-year-old student senseless and threw her from a fourth-floor classroom window, killing her in a so-far unexplained frenzy." |
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HunanForeignGuy
Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 989 Location: Shanghai, PRC
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:28 am Post subject: Foreign Beaters |
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And not just the Chinese...
There is one very notorious male, blond-haired blue-eyed Texan, about 2 metres tall, mid-20's physically (I can't attest to the mental age) at a middle school in ChangSha who was severely reprimanded by the local ChangSha School Board for inflicting corporal punishment upon his Junior 2 students.
Did he stop? Of course not.
Did he listen? Of course not -- he's from Texas, why would he?
Did they fire him? Of course not. They renewed his contract and gave him a huge raise. He probably makes more money now than any other teacher in any other middle school in Hunan.
So go figure it out. |
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TravellingAround

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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:32 am Post subject: |
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http://www.newsgd.com/culture/universities/200608240057.htm
"China revises law to ban teachers from insulting students"
From the article: "A survey released by the National Youth Working Committee in 2005 showed that 81.45 percent of primary school students listed insults from teachers as their most serious problem." |
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Shan-Shan

Joined: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 1074 Location: electric pastures
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:01 am Post subject: |
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Blond hair and blue eyes = a first rate ESL teacher. Easy one, HFG.
Chinese school officials are artificially bred morons (the reason why this must be eludes me). One school I was at hired a Russian to teach [heavily Russian accented] English pronunciation. The hair and eye colour trumped such trivialities like language and teaching abilities. |
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HunanForeignGuy
Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 989 Location: Shanghai, PRC
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:04 am Post subject: |
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Blond hair and blue eyes = a first rate ESL teacher. Easy one, HFG.
Chinese school officials are artificially bred morons (the reason why this must be eludes me). One school I was at hired a Russian to teach [heavily Russian accented] English pronunciation. The hair and eye colour trumped such trivialities like language and teaching abilities. |
Cpacibo, dahrlingk. |
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