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basiltherat
Joined: 04 Oct 2003 Posts: 952
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:30 am Post subject: |
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imho, the best and most professional way to decide on the contents of a covering letter is to take the ad from the organisation (if there is one, of course) and find what matches between what they require and what you have (on your cv) to offer the company.
highlight or mention briefly (not in detail, cos that will or should be on your cv) those particular details in the body of the letter. anything that doesnt match should be left out and only included on the cv. it doesn't take long and looks and sounds good. frankly, if you cant find things that match then, imho, you probably should not be applying for the job.
example; if you speak spanish and their asking for a spanish speaker, mention it. if they require someone who has experience in ecology and you have it, so include it in your covering letter. if yuv been a butcher but they're not requiring anything to do with butchery, don't mention it. if they are asking for experience in the ME but you dont have it, don't mention it. etc
simple.
also, always send a cv with a covering letter unless specifically asked not to. the number of times i just get a one or two-sentence letter with no cv is astounding
as one gets on in one's career, if u have more than half of the requirements that they are asking for, imho, its worth applying for.
i dont believe there is such a thing as a standard covering letter content cos wat you include will differ since you're having to mention different details each time dependent on the requirements of the organisation.
let me say that as far as i am aware, this system has never let me down. our daughter also uses it and hasnt been automaticaly turned down for any position yet.
my tuppence worth.
best
basil 
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| Why would you send all of that information in response to a general ad (one that didn't specify stuff beyond a resume and CL)? Overkill to me, and those transcripts can be expensive if you do this for every ad you respond to! |
Send scanned copies of the lot by email. That way the man knows you have them, and you don't need to bother again. |
Why would i send all of that stuff? because I want the job and it asks me for it.
Scanned copies don't work with official transcripts, not mine at least which come in sealed envelopes. Yes, it can be expensive, but Glenski you should understand as you applied for uni jobs in Japan. That is expensive business.
I get around that by picking and choosing what jobs I apply for. I am very picky and don't apply for that many. |
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dmb

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:52 am Post subject: |
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| dont believe there is such a thing as a standard covering letter content cos wat you include will differ since you're having to mention different details each time dependent on the requirements of the organisation. |
wise words........ from a Colchester fan  |
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basiltherat
Joined: 04 Oct 2003 Posts: 952
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| from a Colchester fan |
never been anything else ... since i was about 7.
our turn this year but we gotta stop winning. its getting scary.
best
basil |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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Gordon wrote:
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| Why would i send all of that stuff? because I want the job and it asks me for it. |
Gordon, reread what I wrote. I was referring to ads that didn't ask for such stuff. My question was why should people send all that information on just a bare bones ad, one that only seems to want a resume and cover letter?
And, you are correct, I am well aware of how expensive it is to mail registered letters to universities with all of the application materials that they require!! At least half the time they wanted registered mail used.
And, considering my background, I was also fairly picky in who I sent applications to, too, but I still ended up sending out 30 or more letters. |
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Stephen Jones
Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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One of the transcripts would have been unsealed at some time in your career wouldn't it?
You normally don't send the sealed envelope until you have the job, but the scanned copy gives the information. |
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dialogger
Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 419 Location: China
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:01 am Post subject: |
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Sure there are the skills you have and those you don't have but there is a third group where you can hedge a little.
ie if you have exp of one international testing system but not the one the advertiser is looking for - say:
'I do not have x but I do have y and one of the things that attracted me to your ad was the opportunity to extend my knowledge of testing systems'
Works with other skills like IT etc |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:01 am Post subject: |
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| Stephen Jones wrote: |
One of the transcripts would have been unsealed at some time in your career wouldn't it?
You normally don't send the sealed envelope until you have the job, but the scanned copy gives the information. |
I didn't have any transcripts, it was from 1994. The ad asked for a transcript and I gave them one, no point in complaining to them about it. I'd rather complain to you as you're not the one hiring me or not.  |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:06 am Post subject: |
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Gordon wrote:
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| Why would i send all of that stuff? because I want the job and it asks me for it. |
Gordon, reread what I wrote. I was referring to ads that didn't ask for such stuff. My question was why should people send all that information on just a bare bones ad, one that only seems to want a resume and cover letter?
And, you are correct, I am well aware of how expensive it is to mail registered letters to universities with all of the application materials that they require!! At least half the time they wanted registered mail used.
And, considering my background, I was also fairly picky in who I sent applications to, too, but I still ended up sending out 30 or more letters. |
Oh sure, most of the ads I applied for only asked for a resume and cover letter, thankfully. However, some want more and if i really want to work there, then I have to do what it takes. The one benefit to this, is that because the application process is difficult there should be fewer applicants. Some even have mini essays and have a complicated online registration where you basically regurgitate everything on your resume. This is why people don't like looking for jobs. |
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