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figgie
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 Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:55 pm Post subject: Basic advice - working toward DELTA |
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Hi
I passed the Trinity TESOL certificate in 2005 (I already have 3yr Ba). Since then I have had a few teaching posts in the UK, but nothing that has given me a serious amount of chalkface hours.
As a development in my career, I was considering the DELTA. I could then secure a teaching post in the UK, and a wage (something about the DWP tightening up on visa scam schools and qualified staff). However, to get the hours I am going to have to work overseas (leaving wife and baby  ) for about 12 months. I have an interview for this in the next couple of days.
Will a DELTA open doors? Or should I go for an MA or B.Ed or not?! The plan is, get hours before its too late, do DELTA open doors and get job to support little family then continue to progress.
Any advice is appreciated as my head is overloaded from trying to research all this! I know the experience will be beneficial (full time, 22.5 scheduled hours a week, one year contract), but if I get it its in Asia. Can't just 'pop' home for a weekend break! |
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sheeba
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:16 am Post subject: |
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| If I were you I would do both .You can find courses that begin with a first year doing the DELTA and then move onto the Masters . You do 3 years in all and get a DELTA and a Masters- by distance. |
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figgie
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:31 am Post subject: |
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| Hadn't considered that kind of course. Thanks for the tip. |
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gstieglit
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| I would think carefully about getting the MA from distance. If you have wife and family, I would get the MA from school with walls that has a strong teaching component. With wife and family, you will need full benefits like schooling for the kids, plane tickets for family and health insurance. I believe the schools that offer these types of benefits still value an MA from a traditional school more than they value one from online. |
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figgie
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| gstieglit wrote: |
| I would think carefully about getting the MA from distance. If you have wife and family, I would get the MA from school with walls that has a strong teaching component. With wife and family, you will need full benefits like schooling for the kids, plane tickets for family and health insurance. I believe the schools that offer these types of benefits still value an MA from a traditional school more than they value one from online. |
I can certainly see your point regarding the MA. I have read discussions about TEFL certs done in various ways, and each time it boils down to getting something that has that strong teaching component.
As far as 'the whole package' you mentioned above with travel and healthcare and schooling for the kids, its sounds like those kinds of positions are as rare as hens teeth! I could be wrong though.  |
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gstieglit
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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| They are not rare, but competitive. Schools that offer these types of benefits want the most qualified people they can get. I believe that the effort for a traditional MA is worth it if you plan on staying in the business. |
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tedkarma
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| Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:29 am Post subject: |
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| figgie wrote: |
As far as 'the whole package' you mentioned above with travel and healthcare and schooling for the kids, its sounds like those kinds of positions are as rare as hens teeth! I could be wrong though. |
There are actually loads of excellent jobs with full benefits - but as gstieglit mentions - they want good qualifications from real schools. The Middle East for example is full of schools that offer the full package of plane tickets, visas for dependents (wife and kids), free housing, tuition for kids education (though this is tightening up a bit - used to be fairly unlimited and is slowly becoming limited to two children with either diminishing or no benifits for three or more).
A possible compromise is that some established grad schools have programs that involve only a residential component during summer breaks - and you can do the rest of the work from distance.
The issue employers have is that they often don't know if it was you - or someone else - who did the work.
I happen, at the moment, to share an office with a man who made his living for while - taking LSAT and GMAT examinations for other people. Yeah - he was provided by his employers even with the IDs with the names of the people for whom he was taking the examination - with his photo of course . . .
My bet is that some day degrees and certifications will come with your digital photo and/or fingerprints embedded in the document. |
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figgie
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| Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the positive replies guys.
I had the interview today (and 'the man' might even be reading this now....!). There is a position available for me! But maybe I'll look at Korea for more money. That's the thing. I know a bit about the employer and they look great, but Thai pay is not all that.  |
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