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ravel
Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 50 Location: Pyeongnae, then Osaka
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:49 am Post subject: Where can I find a prepaid cellphone? Folding bikes.... |
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Hi I just arrived in Osaka from Seoul. I need to find a prepaid/pay as you go cell phone. I went to Den Den town today and found one place, but they were sold out and didn't know when they would be getting more in I found out that they are available at Kansai airport, but does anyone know of somewhere closer to Dobutsuen mae station where I can get one? I am wanting to look into esl jobs here, so I need the phone right away so employers can contact me. Second....I found a place selling used bikes for about 6000 to 8000 yen, I am undecided if the folding bike have any real advantages. Can you bring a folding bike onto the train when other bikes are not allowed? I've never had a folding bike so I don't know how they are for general riding. Finally what about multi gear bikes, why are there so few here?
Thank for helping,
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fluffyhamster
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 3292 Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:58 am Post subject: |
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I thought you could (i.e. am pretty sure that you can) still buy prepaid phones in convenience stores (provided you have your ID/"gaijin" card by now, to prove your address).
Regarding the bike, I'd imagine it would be OK if you weren't taking it onto rush-hour trains or regularly, but just to be safe you might want to consider cramming it into a big holdall or something to make it less conspicuous (perhaps they come supplied with one already?). I suppose it ultimately depends on how small the particular model folds, and its weight. |
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ravel
Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 50 Location: Pyeongnae, then Osaka
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:12 am Post subject: |
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Thank for the info, the trick here is....I don't have a fixed address yet, I'm here as a tourist, and if I had a Gaigin card I could just get a contract phone, that is why I want a prepaid, which from what I've seen so far are existant but rare here, I' check at the conveince stores though.
Thanks
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fluffyhamster
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 3292 Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:27 am Post subject: |
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It used to be the case that one could buy a prepaid phone anonymously, but given the spate(s) of 'moshi moshi' scams etc, the phone companies were forced to make all prepaid customers, whether existing or future, register their most recent personal details. I doubt if you will be able to get one unless you can provide evidence of having a relatively fixed address (and to get the ID card with your address on it, you need to show you have an employer and thus a visa allowing work of some sort etc). But I could be wrong about some or all of this, so keep checking back here until somebody sets me and you straight about whether it's possible as a tourist. As for the popularity of prepaid phones, it might be hard to tell if a lack of stock implies they're selling like hot cakes or not being ordered due to unpopularity! Whatever may be the case, you could also try going directly to the phone companies' shops themselves if it turns out you are allowed to buy one but your local convenience store is out of 'em.
But hey, seeing as you're here as a tourist maybe it should be you who's calling them (and outlining your reasons for wanting to be possibly interviewed sooner rather than later) rather than waiting for them to call you, and you can do that (i.e. badgering) from a pay phone (or by checking your email at least once a day).
BTW, you know that prepaid phones are pretty expensive when it comes to making calls, right? |
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rampo
Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 97
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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I got a phone from Softbank on my first full day here.
Take the subway to Umeda Station (Midosuji line). Go to the Floatcourt mall. On the second level is a Softbank store, right across from a kaiten sushi place.
They asked me for ID (ostensibly a gaijin card) and an address, so I gave them my passport and my hostel address. Their English is so bad I think they couldn't manage to turn me away and so gave me a phone on the spot. They're sweethearts- they even programmed the phone and registered my calling card for me. |
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Willy_In_Japan
Joined: 20 Jul 2004 Posts: 329
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Softbank wouldnt give me a prepaid phone because my Alien card was only registered at the City Hall at the beginning of my 3 year visa. They said I had to 'renew' it at the City Hall, so they couldnt give me a phone.
It said October 2004 and well, of course everyone knows you have to 'renew' it once a year, right?
Totally bogus. As far as I know, you have to register your Alien card with the new visa only once. I guess I should get them to write down the expiry date of the visa next time.
I just got my friend to get it for me on his card. Bloody annoying. |
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fluffyhamster
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 3292 Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:30 am Post subject: |
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Willy_In_Japan wrote: |
Softbank wouldnt give me a prepaid phone because my Alien card was only registered at the City Hall at the beginning of my 3 year visa. They said I had to 'renew' it at the City Hall, so they couldnt give me a phone.
It said October 2004 and well, of course everyone knows you have to 'renew' it once a year, right?
Totally bogus. As far as I know, you have to register your Alien card with the new visa only once. I guess I should get them to write down the expiry date of the visa next time.
I just got my friend to get it for me on his card. Bloody annoying. |
I also wasn't quite sure what they (then they were Vodafone) wanted me to do with my Alien Registration Card, but to cut a long story short, "all" they are probably asking you to do is to "just" go to your local city hall and get your current 'Period of Stay' expiry date entered on the back of your card (i.e. for you to update your card's details with what your most recent round of visa wrangling managed to achieve). It's a mere formality, a pain, I know...like we'd be hanging around illegally in Japan without a visa simply to get a prepaid phone from them. But I suppose you can understand their hesitancy, because the whole point of the tougher (re)registration is to stamp out any potential misuse of these kind of phones whatsoever (then again, what's stopping people from using public phones to make any dodgy calls).
The full (i.e. long) story's here:
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=30866
Don't get your friend into trouble by abusing his trust eh, Willy! LOL |
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markle
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 1316 Location: Out of Japan
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:02 am Post subject: |
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Prepaid phone have been almost impossible to find since New Year (anyone got one in the last 3 months?). I gave up.
"Can you bring a folding bike onto the train when other bikes are not allowed? I've never had a folding bike so I don't know how they are for general riding. Finally what about multi gear bikes, why are there so few here?"
You can get any bike on a train if it can fit in a bag (just avoid peak hour) Folding bikes are just easier to deal with.
For commuting around the city folding bikes are great, but longer haul they aren't the best.
In fact most bikes are multi gear just the mechanism is different to the standard derailluer (sp?) You have to look abit harder for road and mountain bikes.
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Willy_In_Japan
Joined: 20 Jul 2004 Posts: 329
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:38 am Post subject: |
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I also wasn't quite sure what they (then they were Vodafone) wanted me to do with my Alien Registration Card, but to cut a long story short, "all" they are probably asking you to do is to "just" go to your local city hall and get your current 'Period of Stay' expiry date entered on the back of your card (i.e. for you to update your card's details with what your most recent round of visa wrangling managed to achieve). It's a mere formality, a pain, I know...like we'd be hanging around illegally in Japan without a visa simply to get a prepaid phone from them. But I suppose you can understand their hesitancy, because the whole point of the tougher (re)registration is to stamp out any potential misuse of these kind of phones whatsoever (then again, what's stopping people from using public phones to make any dodgy calls |
Actually, I CAN'T understand their hesitancy. The card WAS updated on the back. The old visa was 'zeroed off'....ie they put something like Oct 2003-October 2004 on it and then added October 2004 ....I guess cause they didn't put the end period of time on the back, they wanted me to go back. It already was 'renewed' at the begining of my visa. Of course, I could't argue with these twits in my broken Japanese. Some days I want to strangle people here. |
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Zzonkmiles

Joined: 05 Apr 2003 Posts: 309
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:52 am Post subject: |
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Willy_In_Japan wrote: |
Of course, I couldn't argue with these twits in my broken Japanese. Some days I want to strangle people here. |
Bureaucratic nonsense aside, I have to say that their inability to understand you is not really their fault. If anything, I think the Japanese staff would be more justified in being frustrated with you than the other way around. Although this is not the focus of this thread, I think if you are able to more effectively communicate in the local language, you will find yourself better able to avoid these types of hassles.
And to bring this post back on topic, one more thing you should remember is that these phone companies often charge an expensive fee if you want to cancel your service in mid-contract, regardless of how long you've been a paying customer. (Contracts are usually one year long.) So if your contract starts on April 20, 2006, and you want to cancel it on April 30, 2007, you will likely have to pay a hefty fee. For Softbank, this fee is 10,500 yen. So be prepared to ask these kinds of questions when you establish your cell phone service. |
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fluffyhamster
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 3292 Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:37 am Post subject: |
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I'm not sure if arguing the finer points of bureaucratic red tape is what most people would imagine they'd need to be able to 'effectively communicate in the local language'. In fact, if it weren't for this prepaid phone crackdown, I doubt if anyone would really care about the updating or not of the card's stated Period of Stay (as opposed to the actual Period of Stay/visa itself in the passport) - I mean, it's not like people who've overstayed their visas are walking around flashing updated ARCs and fooling everybody that way, is it. |
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BigPoppa
Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 28
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