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BigPoppa



Joined: 21 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:38 am    Post subject: Suit? Reply with quote

I know that professional dress is expected, but not sure what is considered professional enough.

Is an actual suit expected for job interviews/working or is it acceptable to dress as a teacher would in the US (khakis, tie, dress shoes, buttondown shirt, sportcoat)?

Thanks
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movinaround



Joined: 08 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:50 am    Post subject: Re: Suit? Reply with quote

BigPoppa wrote:
I know that professional dress is expected, but not sure what is considered professional enough.

Is an actual suit expected for job interviews/working or is it acceptable to dress as a teacher would in the US (khakis, tie, dress shoes, buttondown shirt, sportcoat)?

Thanks


Interview = suit
Working = most likely a suit if working at AEON or NOVA (prob the other big ones too). I think JET is less stringent.
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ndorfn



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

as per previous poster.
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AndyH



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot depends on where you work. Many eikaiwas just require a tie, button-down collared shirt, slacks with a crease, and formal/semi-formal shoes. Professionalism is important, but a lot of younger people don't seem to care so much about attire.
But for an interview, try to look as formal as possible. Being clean-cut usually helps too.
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BigPoppa



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to be interviewing in Japan.


I have no problem bringing nice clothes for work (and I'm very clean cut). I just hate the idea of dragging a suit all the way across the globe solely for interviews, but I'll do it if I need to.
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furiousmilksheikali



Joined: 31 Jul 2006
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Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigPoppa wrote:
I'm going to be interviewing in Japan.


I have no problem bringing nice clothes for work (and I'm very clean cut). I just hate the idea of dragging a suit all the way across the globe solely for interviews, but I'll do it if I need to.


You may hate the idea of schlepping a suit across the globe but there are plenty (if not most) companies that will expect you to work in one. A suit will raise your chances of getting employment and that is a fact. If you're not interested in raising your chances then I think jeans and a "Hard Rock Cafe Baghdad" T-shirt is what you should pack.

Your choice.
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Glenski



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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Is an actual suit expected for job interviews/working
Interviews? Yes.

Working? Depends on the situation. If you work with little kids, you may not have to (or want to). Some eikaiwas demand a suit. Others let you get by with semi-formal attire, while still others may let you wear anything at all. At high school or university, people wear suits or semi-formal clothes.
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BigPoppa



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, that's what I needed to know
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fluffyhamster



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It probably goes without saying, but if the employer pays peanuts yet still expects you to always adhere to a strict dress code, then you should look for a job elsewhere (or pack several suits LOL).
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furiousmilksheikali



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could always wear the suit on the way over. I've done this before and ended up getting upgraded to Business Class.
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cornishmuppet



Joined: 27 Mar 2004
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Location: Nagano, Japan

PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Believe it or not, I have a suit to wear in Japan for the first time in 2 1/2 years (brought it from England at xmas).

But then, I interviewed over the phone and got a job in an eikawa where I was told 'shorts or jeans are fine'. I interviewed for my BoE job in a tie and shirt (from D2, the arms were way too short, and I'm sure the joke we had when I pointed this out to the examiners was what got the me the job!).

In short, you can survive without one (yes, even here) but I'd strongly suggest bringing one anyway, because it will undoubtedly come in handy, especially if you're working at a chain school. I always see the Nova teachers in theirs. I basically brought mine because I felt like a tit at the graduation ceremony at my last school because I was the only one without one. I now have two weeks to lost two inches of waistline to fit into it for the next one! Wish me luck....
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Neongene



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I acutally don't own a suit, or a tie for that matter, I work in a very casual enviroment so I never needed to buy a tie.

Anyway, my question is does anybody know a good place - online or offline where you can find a suit for under 150 bucks?

What is the fashion trend - plain black suit? 2 buttons? 3 buttons?
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canuck



Joined: 11 May 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neongene wrote:
I acutally don't own a suit, or a tie for that matter, I work in a very casual enviroment so I never needed to buy a tie.

Anyway, my question is does anybody know a good place - online or offline where you can find a suit for under 150 bucks?

What is the fashion trend - plain black suit? 2 buttons? 3 buttons?


You will be able to find a suit for 15000 to 20000 yen easily in any big city in Japan.
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BigPoppa



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This apparently is the perfect time to buy a suit in the US, as they're swapping out for the new fashions.

I just got a $600 Ralph Lauren suit for $140.
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markrendl



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While a suit can help, it's not always required; you might be able to check company dress codes via websites, or maybe via previous posts here.

Nova doesn't require suits; just dress shirt, tie and nice pair of slacks. I didn't wear one to my interview here in Japan, nor have I ever worn one to the office. Some of the guys do wear them, but not even all the trainers wear them. I work at the MMC, maybe branches have different policies.

Mark
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