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Quibby84



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm...no, I see the forums but when I go to the topics there are no posts there such as the "After giving birth" topic...do you think that I dont have full access yet?
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Quibby84



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TokyoLiz, do you have children?
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TokyoLiz



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I do.

About 170 between the ages of 12 and 18 Wink

See PM.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quibby84 wrote:
It is so weird that pregnancy is not covered by health insurance....but we wouldnt have the baby here only the check-ups which I heard is about 10,000 a month. We would go home for at least 6 months to have the baby, recover and let the baby age before we bring it overseas. We would have the baby at a place that would let us pay outright (like a private clinic) in American, not Japan. I have heard to many horror stories about giving birth in Japan.....it would also be nice to be surrounded by family after the birth instead of being alone with only my husband for support...So Gordon how much schooling did you have to have before you could work at a University? I wouldnt really like to work at a University, I really like kids, but it may be good for my husband to work there while the baby was still young and I couldnt work...



I think you'd spend much more in a private American hospital than in Japan. The gov't here gives you 300,000 yen afterwards which does pay for a large chunk of the cost. My employer kicked in another 90,000 so that was a welcome surprise.
Alone? We have plenty of friends here now, but you are right, it would be nice to have family around especially for the first. Our eldest was born in Canada and we had 30 people in the delivery room about an hour after the birth. Was a lot of fun.
University work? You will most likely need a related masters degree, lots of experience and some Japanese language ability.
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Quibby84



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having a baby in american would cost us about $10,000 but I found a cute little house that doubles as a birthing center that is half of the cost of a hospital...I have heard about the money that they give you when the baby is born...I guess money is not so important when you weigh having money with having your family there to welcome your child....
Yeah, we probably couldnt do the university thing, I cant imagine going back to school (or maybe I cant imagine staying in one place for two years solid..lol).
Thanks for the response, I am sure that we could manage money wise, so far we have been blessed with always having enough, I think we would be fine with a baby...Smile
Do your kids wish that they could move to canada? Or do they like Japan? Also, are you going to let them go to junior high and high school here?
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quibby84 wrote:

Do your kids wish that they could move to canada? Or do they like Japan? Also, are you going to let them go to junior high and high school here?
Smile


They really only know Japan, so they would be sad to move anywhere. We have gone back to Canada every summer, so they think of it as a fun summer holiday, not as a place to live. No my kids will be going to school somewhere else, not sure where we'll move or when.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We decided that American might have more opportunities as far as high schools and colleges go. You can pretty much get in anywhere if you want to. But Japan is the BEST place for small kids we are realizing when we see all of those awesome parks. My husband and I want to have a baby so we can have an excuse to go play in those cool parks....hehe...just kidding...kinda...lol.
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rai



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:42 am    Post subject: Re: having babies Reply with quote

TokyoLiz wrote:
Quiby,

You know the book Being Abroad? There is lots of information about pregnancy, child rearing, etc. there.

The website and message board there might be a good source of information not about working in Japan, but about life, women and family issues.

BTW, I love your wide-eyed wonder! Ignore Canucklehead. Wink


Thank you for demonstrating that one can disseminate information without being a d!ckhead. Smile
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Sherri



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quibby84 wrote:
I have heard to many horror stories about giving birth in Japan.....it would also be nice to be surrounded by family after the birth instead of being alone with only my husband for support...


Quibby84
I had both of my kids in Japan and it was fine. I wonder what kind of horror stories you heard. Of course it is nice to have your husband present, and my parents flew out for each birth. My closest friends were in Japan at that time, so I did not feel alone at all and there are many resources for non-Japanese moms in Japan.

Sherri
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Quibby84



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was going to have a baby in japan, but I guess I am being lazy and are going to go home for a fewl months to let my family take care of me, and neither one of us will work...i have heard that husbands cant be present, or doctors or do busy, or they rush for csection, or you share a room with many women, or (and worst of all) you have to stay at the hospitial for a week. BUT that wouldnt have stopped me, I just dont feel like doing all the paperwork and having to go back to work ( to afford to stay in japan)....
so how was your experiences? and have you found it hard to support children in japan?
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quibby84 wrote:
I was going to have a baby in japan, but I guess I am being lazy and are going to go home for a fewl months to let my family take care of me, and neither one of us will work...i have heard that husbands cant be present, or doctors or do busy, or they rush for csection, or you share a room with many women, or (and worst of all) you have to stay at the hospitial for a week. BUT that wouldnt have stopped me, I just dont feel like doing all the paperwork and having to go back to work ( to afford to stay in japan)....
so how was your experiences? and have you found it hard to support children in japan?



Those are a lot of misconceptions. Every hospital is different, but you may find that hospitals may bend the rules or be more flexible with gaijins, ours did. I was in the delivery room every time and cut the umbilical cord for all of them. Japan has a much lower rate of c-sections than N.A., 5-10% as opposed to 30%.
You may like that week in the hospital, getting a lot of support from the nurses. The care from the staff is better here than you will get in America where they are all understaffed and often grumpy. We had a good experience both times here, but you may want a translator with you as it can be complicated.
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furiousmilksheikali



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gordon wrote:
Quibby84 wrote:
I was going to have a baby in japan, but I guess I am being lazy and are going to go home for a fewl months to let my family take care of me, and neither one of us will work...i have heard that husbands cant be present, or doctors or do busy, or they rush for csection, or you share a room with many women, or (and worst of all) you have to stay at the hospitial for a week. BUT that wouldnt have stopped me, I just dont feel like doing all the paperwork and having to go back to work ( to afford to stay in japan)....
so how was your experiences? and have you found it hard to support children in japan?



Those are a lot of misconceptions. Every hospital is different, but you may find that hospitals may bend the rules or be more flexible with gaijins, ours did. I was in the delivery room every time and cut the umbilical cord for all of them. Japan has a much lower rate of c-sections than N.A., 5-10% as opposed to 30%.
You may like that week in the hospital, getting a lot of support from the nurses. The care from the staff is better here than you will get in America where they are all understaffed and often grumpy. We had a good experience both times here, but you may want a translator with you as it can be complicated.


My co-worker went back to England to have her baby as although she speaks a fair amount of Japanese she felt it wasn't good enough to fully understand what the doctors were telling her. Also she wanted a broader support network of friends and family who could help out if necessary. Gordon, I'm assuming that your wife is Japanese in which case she would probably feel more comfortable giving birth here.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

furiousmilksheikali wrote:
Gordon wrote:
Quibby84 wrote:
I was going to have a baby in japan, but I guess I am being lazy and are going to go home for a fewl months to let my family take care of me, and neither one of us will work...i have heard that husbands cant be present, or doctors or do busy, or they rush for csection, or you share a room with many women, or (and worst of all) you have to stay at the hospitial for a week. BUT that wouldnt have stopped me, I just dont feel like doing all the paperwork and having to go back to work ( to afford to stay in japan)....
so how was your experiences? and have you found it hard to support children in japan?



Those are a lot of misconceptions. Every hospital is different, but you may find that hospitals may bend the rules or be more flexible with gaijins, ours did. I was in the delivery room every time and cut the umbilical cord for all of them. Japan has a much lower rate of c-sections than N.A., 5-10% as opposed to 30%.
You may like that week in the hospital, getting a lot of support from the nurses. The care from the staff is better here than you will get in America where they are all understaffed and often grumpy. We had a good experience both times here, but you may want a translator with you as it can be complicated.


My co-worker went back to England to have her baby as although she speaks a fair amount of Japanese she felt it wasn't good enough to fully understand what the doctors were telling her. Also she wanted a broader support network of friends and family who could help out if necessary. Gordon, I'm assuming that your wife is Japanese in which case she would probably feel more comfortable giving birth here.


No, you assumed incorrectly. She is Canadian. Our first was born in Canada, so she had some confidence.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gordon wrote:
furiousmilksheikali wrote:
Gordon wrote:
Quibby84 wrote:
I was going to have a baby in japan, but I guess I am being lazy and are going to go home for a fewl months to let my family take care of me, and neither one of us will work...i have heard that husbands cant be present, or doctors or do busy, or they rush for csection, or you share a room with many women, or (and worst of all) you have to stay at the hospitial for a week. BUT that wouldnt have stopped me, I just dont feel like doing all the paperwork and having to go back to work ( to afford to stay in japan)....
so how was your experiences? and have you found it hard to support children in japan?



Those are a lot of misconceptions. Every hospital is different, but you may find that hospitals may bend the rules or be more flexible with gaijins, ours did. I was in the delivery room every time and cut the umbilical cord for all of them. Japan has a much lower rate of c-sections than N.A., 5-10% as opposed to 30%.
You may like that week in the hospital, getting a lot of support from the nurses. The care from the staff is better here than you will get in America where they are all understaffed and often grumpy. We had a good experience both times here, but you may want a translator with you as it can be complicated.


My co-worker went back to England to have her baby as although she speaks a fair amount of Japanese she felt it wasn't good enough to fully understand what the doctors were telling her. Also she wanted a broader support network of friends and family who could help out if necessary. Gordon, I'm assuming that your wife is Japanese in which case she would probably feel more comfortable giving birth here.


No, you assumed incorrectly. She is Canadian. Our first was born in Canada, so she had some confidence.


Woops! My mistake.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

furiousmilksheikali wrote:
Gordon wrote:
furiousmilksheikali wrote:
Gordon wrote:
Quibby84 wrote:
I was going to have a baby in japan, but I guess I am being lazy and are going to go home for a fewl months to let my family take care of me, and neither one of us will work...i have heard that husbands cant be present, or doctors or do busy, or they rush for csection, or you share a room with many women, or (and worst of all) you have to stay at the hospitial for a week. BUT that wouldnt have stopped me, I just dont feel like doing all the paperwork and having to go back to work ( to afford to stay in japan)....
so how was your experiences? and have you found it hard to support children in japan?



Those are a lot of misconceptions. Every hospital is different, but you may find that hospitals may bend the rules or be more flexible with gaijins, ours did. I was in the delivery room every time and cut the umbilical cord for all of them. Japan has a much lower rate of c-sections than N.A., 5-10% as opposed to 30%.
You may like that week in the hospital, getting a lot of support from the nurses. The care from the staff is better here than you will get in America where they are all understaffed and often grumpy. We had a good experience both times here, but you may want a translator with you as it can be complicated.


My co-worker went back to England to have her baby as although she speaks a fair amount of Japanese she felt it wasn't good enough to fully understand what the doctors were telling her. Also she wanted a broader support network of friends and family who could help out if necessary. Gordon, I'm assuming that your wife is Japanese in which case she would probably feel more comfortable giving birth here.


No, you assumed incorrectly. She is Canadian. Our first was born in Canada, so she had some confidence.


Woops! My mistake.


That's OK. People often assume my wife is Japanese, like it is a rarity to have a non-Japanese wife here. Laughing
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