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upchuckles
Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 111
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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I came over on a tourist visa and am now working. I got my residency papers without issue the day I arrived and my tourist visa has been converted to a business visa since my stay is less than 6 months |
You're not very clever are you? You underwent NO RESIDENCE FORMALITY, your visa was converted to a business type visa for six months.. Thats not the same as residency or working visa.. You dont have the same rights as teachers who have a z visa. |
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cj750
Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 3081 Location: Beijing
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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You underwent NO RESIDENCE FORMALITY |
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didnt the poster say he had his RP....what is a residence formality
if he registared at a local PSB..then he has covered his basic requirements...as to a residency permit..I know of teachers on Fs that have the RPs..
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You dont have the same rights as teachers who have a z visa |
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such as the rights to pay tax..what rights are you talking bout.. |
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upchuckles
Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 111
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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He says that he was processed for RP, but then says he was given a six month F visa.. Thats not a residence permit.. Its a visa.. |
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FuzzX
Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 122
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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As I understand it, getting an exchange worker visa is fairly simple.... it�ll supposedly run you about 35 bucks a month to renew it... My friend just came back from teaching in China and says its fairly easy but he says its a good idea to have a TESOL cert handy or a fake degree just in case.. |
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naturegirl321
Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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FuzzX wrote: |
As I understand it, getting an exchange worker visa is fairly simple.... it�ll supposedly run you about 35 bucks a month to renew it... My friend just came back from teaching in China and says its fairly easy but he says its a good idea to have a TESOL cert handy or a fake degree just in case.. |
How do you get an exchange visa? |
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A'Moo
Joined: 21 Jan 2007 Posts: 1067 Location: a supermarket that sells cheese
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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WARNING----- I was arreseted by a PSB official on the weekend. He told me that I was not in possession of a working visa, therefore, I was in the country illegally and would be regarded as an illegal alien. I let him know, in no uncertain terms, that I was not to be subjected to such an utterly racist remark, and let him know that, the proper term was "undocumented worker". He then proceeded to ask me what I taught, at which I proudly retorted "English"...He then snickered, punched his fellow officer in the ribs, and said "English? English is the language of the ghetto. Teach Fukienese-the language of prosperity". I've had enough of this. I am organizing a rally in Revolutionary Martyrs square this weekend, where we will have the crossed flags of Betsy Ross and The five yellow stars on red, all the time protesting the building of the fence along the South China sea, looking to keep friendly, hard-working caucasian members of society out of the country..... |
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englishgibson
Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 4345
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Moo are you serious
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I came over on a tourist visa and am now working. I got my residency papers without issue the day I arrived and my tourist visa has been converted to a business visa since my stay is less than 6 months. I have been to the PSB a total of three times. Once to the local PSB to get the residency papers and then to the Tianjin City PSB twice to get registered for the business visa conversion. |
In Nanning, Guanxi I had to provide a certificate of ownership of the appartement where I live as well as the management's office of the building aproval there. I can't imagine how many FTs might have a problem providing such a document, since landlords are quite "shy". This is apparently a new regulation for foreigners' residency permits and it's due to the government's crackdown on real estate owners and their frauds.
Anyway, that permit takes a few days to get in Nanning now.
But China is a country with two systems that have multiplied to 1.3 billion systems around ...Tianjin might give it easily
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I have not had any problems at all with this and have already started working and making money. Ill advised for some? Maybe. But I will probably be doing it again unless I decide to get a full time work visa for this fall. |
Making money with your F visa ..not advisable, but possible in this country with so many systems ...keep not only doing it but also you eyes wide open
peace to one country with two systems
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cheers and beers to all hard working FTs in those systems
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i love emoticons, but i hate so many systems |
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FuzzX
Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 122
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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Working on a Tourist Visa is illegal in any country |
And done in every country. Keep your head down, don't walk the streets announcing that you are employable and set yourself up with a bunch of private classes. Teaching with a tourist visa is an excellent experience in learning to sell yourself. Don't sweat it. |
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Mary Ann Davis
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 30 Location: Asia
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:16 am Post subject: L and Z visa, 10/07 |
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I decided to return to China to teach, but universities are hesitant to actually send the Z visa paperwork now it's already Oct. They want me to come in on an L visa, then say they'll change it.
I'm not financially fit enough to get shafted once I reach China (it's happened before) so ask your advice. Do you think it's safe to enter China, go to the university and then trust them to send me to Hong Kong to change my visa? I couldn't pay for the trip myself. One university said they'd send the Z visa stuff, then it never arrived! Thanks. Mary Ann |
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southern bluefin
Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Posts: 12
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:39 am Post subject: Getting around the legal barriers to freelancing... |
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I'm planning to come to China next week with my fiancee who is a Chinese expat.
How does the following concept sound:
- I arrive and introduce myself to directors of local immigration companies with my fiancee's help
- I offer to provide English tuition for free, but that the immigration company may charge their clients. They may put an ad in the paper for my classes
- My Chinese mother-in-law-to-be is paid a "fee" by the immigration companies or company that has me tutor their clients. The company may take a slice of the action, but the fee could be based on X dollars per person in attendance. E.g., 15 students @ RMB40 per 45 minute session = RMB600, of which I get at least half as a gift from the mother-in-law-to-be.
It's really a gratuity for my time rather than a wage" as such - although it doesn't have to be linked at all with the teaching work.
Can anyone pick through that and find a reason I'd get caught - thanks.
Does it hold water?
Also, what resources should I bring - IELTS's prep stuff? Any suggestions? |
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Teatime of Soul
Joined: 12 Apr 2007 Posts: 905
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:19 am Post subject: |
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What kind of visa do you plan to use to stay in China?
Suppose after a year or so, you and girlfriend/wife have a baby. Chinese mother in law LOVES the baby. She will gladly spend time sitting the baby.
Then you are busted as an illegal and deported with a minimum five year no reentry. Grandma gonna be unhappy.
And of course when your "employer" decides that it's going to be a 90/10 split since you are an illegal with no rights, what will you do?
If you plan to receive wages for work in China, then you should have a proper work visa. |
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jeffinflorida
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 2024 Location: "I'm too proud to beg and too lazy to work" Uncle Fester, The Addams Family season two
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:38 am Post subject: Re: Getting around the legal barriers to freelancing... |
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southern bluefin wrote: |
I'm planning to come to China next week with my fiancee who is a Chinese expat.
How does the following concept sound:
- I arrive and introduce myself to directors of local immigration companies with my fiancee's help
- I offer to provide English tuition for free, but that the immigration company may charge their clients. They may put an ad in the paper for my classes
- My Chinese mother-in-law-to-be is paid a "fee" by the immigration companies or company that has me tutor their clients. The company may take a slice of the action, but the fee could be based on X dollars per person in attendance. E.g., 15 students @ RMB40 per 45 minute session = RMB600, of which I get at least half as a gift from the mother-in-law-to-be.
It's really a gratuity for my time rather than a wage" as such - although it doesn't have to be linked at all with the teaching work.
Can anyone pick through that and find a reason I'd get caught - thanks.
Does it hold water?
Also, what resources should I bring - IELTS's prep stuff? Any suggestions? |
Too complicated... Just come here on an F visa, work, and hope you don't get busted or worse get cheated... |
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jwbhomer
Joined: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 876 Location: CANADA
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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What is an "immigration company"? |
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jeffinflorida
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 2024 Location: "I'm too proud to beg and too lazy to work" Uncle Fester, The Addams Family season two
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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jwbhomer wrote: |
What is an "immigration company"? |
Homer J, I think it's those people who cram 100 chinese into a shipping container and then bring it from china to the Port of Los Angeles...
Then the fun begins... |
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tw
Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 3898
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:16 am Post subject: |
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jwbhomer wrote: |
What is an "immigration company"? |
AKA immigration representation or consulting company. They handle immigration applications on behalf of their clients. |
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