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WTF am i missing something? ESL jobs in Osaka or Tokyo
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TokyoLiz



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Location: Tokyo, Japan

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:36 am    Post subject: お辞儀-ty Jig Reply with quote

Brooks, I've found that in Tokyo, a handshake is often appreciated by those who deal with foreigners. I've often begun to bow to a superior (work situations and others) only to be surprised by a hand extended and a big smile.

But sure, in deep Shikoku, it's a bow, no question about that. And you practically need a manual to know the correct way to do お辞儀, the Japanese bow.

Have other people had the same slight shock of going to bow, and the Japanese host/superior shakes your hand? Even my martial arts teacher shakes hands.
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Sweetsee



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that Liz, very nice posting as usual.
In my case, the contact person was a foreigner--that's why I decided to ask if I could swing by in person, that and the school was located very close to my own. Needless to say it was handshakes all the way around and I am so happy that I decided to email him. You just never know.
And it sure doesn't hurt to have the head of the English department of a major university as a tennis partner. I might also mention that they invited me to play in a tournament with players from six local universities, where I met people from another university I interviewed with and now I have played tennis at both universities I applied to.
Enjoy,
s
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David W



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno if I agree that cold calling doesn't work as a general rule. If you have a visa in hand it'll work sometimes but in the OP's case he might be sol as he has no visa.
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cornishmuppet



Joined: 27 Mar 2004
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Location: Nagano, Japan

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guy I knew who got a visa from a school he was just doing part time work for wasn't new in Japan. It was his second or third visa, I think. He'd been working in an eikawa before, quit, and had just done a visa run to Vietnam. He was working on a tourist visa (technically illegal I know, before you all jump on it). All I know, which isn't much, is that my mate told the school's owner (who was not Japanese) he needed a visa and the guy sponsered him. Maybe he did it on the premise that my mate would do more classes if required, I don't know.

If the rules are different depending on whether its your first visa or not, then this is probably useless info. I was under the impression it wouldn't make any odds, but there you go. I don't know the ins and outs of visa sponsership, sorry.
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fruitcake



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

can anyone offer up the names of the universities in Osaka?

Cheers!
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canuck



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:30 pm    Post subject: Re: WTF am i missing something? ESL jobs in Osaka or Tokyo Reply with quote

ravel wrote:
This is related to my job find strategy thread I started....WTF I have been applying for jobs daily, looking for jobs daily. I have yet to get a single interview. I don't have a work visa yet and I want to work specifically in Osaka. I'm in Osaka. Am I expecting too much to want to NOT work for the big 4, get sponsored and get paid at least 250,000 yen?

Is the supply of teachers here such that these basic expectation are truly too much to ask, or am I missing something that vets here know about the Japanese way of doing business? Do Japanese businesses leave everything until the last minute and then panic? Is this not supposed to be job seeking prime time in Japan? How long can one reasonably expect to wait before finding a job here? I know that I have to expect at least a months expenses before getting paid, but how many weeks or months can I expect to wait before getting a full time job here. Fortunately I have other options, but I would really like to work in Japan, however I'm not sure the complete emptying of my savings to do it is worth it. Is there alternatives to applying to NOVA, getting the visa, then leaving?...I'd rather just get a decent employer and stay with them.
WTF?


ravel wrote:
I have been looking for 2 weeks. I don't have a phone number, I have tried repeatedly to get a cell, but because of ******* stupid Japanese rules, I can't get a phone without an Alien card.

All jobs with a fax also have email addresses.

I have been downloading the Kansai fleamarket, Kansai Scene, scouring the Japanzine (last issue had a good internet feature about many site including jobs).

Strangely the ones with phone numbers either don't answer or can't speak English and ask to have the resume emailed, or aren't sponsoring. I have been putting in a legitimate effort, but so far the result are are crap! All suggestions are welcome.

I'm in Osaka also, appreciate the suggestions though Canuck, Thanks.


You're coming up on a month now. What's the update ravel? Did you get a job?
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