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laughing_magpie06 · Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Posts: 282

Thanks Michael, also could you tell us who owns this particular school because in the case of EF schools there may be a group run by the same owner ala Swara. If one school is badly run by a particular snake oil salesman, chances are the other half a dozen would be too.

gugelhupf · Joined: 24 Jan 2004 Posts: 575 Location: Jabotabek

Oh dear! A colleague of mine just showed me the application form - THIRTEEN pages of it - for Bina Bangsa school. They require 5 referees, of which one must be a church minister, and ask some incredibly intrusive and personal questions. All that hassle for a very average NatPlus employer.

TEAM_PAPUA · Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 1679 Location: HOLE

The expectations of some people really amaze me. If you are working for a sub-standard school/language course and you are unhappy LEAVE. If indeed you can't leave because you are not suitably qualified to work for a better school then quit complaining.

You are where you belong Cool

ESLninja · Joined: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 12 Location: Singapore

pamulang · Joined: 29 Oct 2006 Posts: 2

I dared to expose their shonky practices, cos maybe naively I thought this is the way in the west things usually improve. And god knows, companies here often need a shakeup. However now I know this is the main reason people in Indonesia put up with s**t from anyone and don't air their grievances publicly. But now, to protect my family I will use an anonymous pen name to air what I consider real concerns and life expericences to the readers of this forum.[/quote]

This is pretty real stuff. I was threatened with having snakes put in my garden, getting deported and bosses who say that my being deported is not as bad as the school's reputation.

I dare say that jealousy and backstabbing is much worse than in the real corporate world. This is worse if the principal(s), VPs themselves are the ones doing it. And the culture flows down. Some of us try to shut ourselves off but you find that if the culture is bad, there's no way you can do any work. You want to do your best for the kids management is only interested in the money and your supervisors are only interested in their own jobs. I used to be really outspoken about things that I felt should be changed... now I find it's safer to just say nothing and wait until it's time to get out.

basiltherat · Joined: 04 Oct 2003 Posts: 952

-3E- · Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:17 pm Post subject:

I find there are ways to get things you want done... you just have to know how to do it...

BlakeS · Joined: 07 Aug 2006 Posts: 87 Location: Xian