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teacherdude



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:48 am    Post subject: wow Reply with quote

You came at 6:00 am and still waited for three hours.

Chances are ıf you arrive at one. At least half the ppl will be at the final desk.

And by the time u kill two hours, 60 percent should be finished.

I could get there for 7 am but already I am dıscouraged Sad

TD
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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know people who arrived at noon and who never got processed because the place closed before their number was called. That's why I went early.
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teacherdude



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:31 pm    Post subject: damn Reply with quote

you were number one and still waited three hours.

Damn!!

Even without your one hour wait at the final desk, that's still two hours.

How the hell is that possible for a guy who was number one in the line??

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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, it was three hours from the time they opened at 7: I got there at 6. The three hours I mentioned was the processing time. I was out around 10. I've heard that some days it's busier, other days less so. You never know. There may only be a few desks and counters to go to, but that doesn't mean there's efficiency. The emniyet is still uncomputerised- lots of card cabinets and ledgers and people drinking tea. After the place opened, we all rushed into the building....and ended up waiting in a long hallway for 40 minutes for no apparent reason. Then got to queue at a new desk where they took their sweet time; then at another, then downstairs to pay where they had to go look for change, for a receipt....for something.... and then back up to the last desk where the guy at the counter just stared at the growing queue and sipped tea and no one could tell me when anyone would be back to sign my bit of paper. I stood, first in that queue, for an hour. I remember at another point being told to go wait out in the coutyard outside for 25 minutes to wait for someone else to return. I forget if there were other queues. It's all a blur of bureaucracy.

I guess the thing is, when I left at just after 10, they had barely made a dent in the crowd that I remember had arrived between 6 and 7. They were still crowding up to the desks, not even having paid yet. I guess it depends on the crowd- the people after me where mainly African men and Russian women and I saw them being questioned a lot more than I was. If you go at 1, the people from 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, etc will still be queuing, waiting for the tea drinkers, etc. I was there on a friday in December. Maybe that affects things. When I told my DoS I was out by ten, she was amazed.

Good luck
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teacherdude



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 3:55 pm    Post subject: dude Reply with quote

The system has certainly regressed.

It used to take me 40-50 mnts to do a renwal.

You filled out your form and went directly to the last desk to get approved, and then just pay and get your slip telling you when to come back.

What you experienced, is the same mess I went through a few months back. It sounds horrible. I honestly felt like just leaving or finding someone to bribe.

Getting a number took about 30 mnts. I felt good about that. But then next line took about three hours.

In the next line -where you get the approval, I got ignored for half an hour, while the guy just walked in and out of the office and stared at me without saying anything. Finally joined another line and got served half an hour later.

Paying and getting your appointment slip is easy enough. But in the final line, just waiting for the slip took half an hour because the woman left ... Sometimes instead of leaving, they drink tea and look around or read the newspaper.

Dude
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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember the emniyet in Kayseri, when I first got my ikamet: the four of us were bundled into a disintegratin cab, taken to the police station on the edge of town, plunked down in a room full of people typing on old fashioned typewriters, given a few rounds of tea, and bundled back into the taxi. A week later our ikamets showed up at the school. I miss those days. Very Happy
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dmb



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

getting a resident permit is now in English.

http://yabancilar.iem.gov.tr/english.htm


all you need to know, and as it's official it should be up to date.
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FGT



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Initial application for obtaining Turkish citizenship inside Turkey is to be made to Population and Nationality Administrative Directorate of any governoarte

Is this English?
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dmb



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It took me 40 minutes this morning- quite painless
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dmb



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmb wrote:
It took me 40 minutes this morning- quite painless



@#$^$#W@*%($%#$@%$@!%$#@%$!@

That will teach me for being so smug. The emniyet have just called me and said they made a mistake in charging me and I need to go back 'hemen' to give them 90 ytl or they can't process it. Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats on the 40 minutes! The guy at the last counter must have skipped his tea break. Was this an exception or did everyone else breeze through too? It'd be a relief to know things are getting better there.
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Baba Alex



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmb wrote:
dmb wrote:
It took me 40 minutes this morning- quite painless



@#$^$#W@*%($%#$@%$@!%$#@%$!@

That will teach me for being so smug. The emniyet have just called me and said they made a mistake in charging me and I need to go back 'hemen' to give them 90 ytl or they can't process it. Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad


See if Billy Buzz will lend you his sawn-off this time.
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dmb



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, Here's the update. I WAS FINED.

Why? I hear you ask.

When I left Turkey for Qatar a few years ago I didn't cancel my hikamet(Yes it had expired). So basically I have been fined on a monthly basis between my last legal hikamet and today.

Yes, i have been doing visa runs for the past 2 years.

In the end I had to pay 275 on top of the normal fees.

Thrifty, Sheikh, did you cancel your last hikamet when you went off to warmer climes?
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, how could I have known that that was what you are supposed to do?
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dmb



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, when you set up your chip van don't be surprised to be hit with a fine.... of course the law can change after your next Efes extra. (psst thrifty- don't tell anyone, I now have a new best mate on the inside. Ahmet says to give him a ring should there be any problems. I have his cep number)
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